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Mountain Man (prfbrown@magna.com.au) wrote:
: toms@kaylor.ncifcrf.gov (Tom Schneider) wrote:

: >: In another thread here
: >: John Collier (pljdc@alinga.newcastle.edu.au) noted:
: >: If our *additional information* is "on the hoof" then the question is, how
: >: big is the corral, how do we draw the boundary conditions to avoid
: >: including the entire solar system or more?  I believe someone has alluded
: >: to this question.
: >
: >I find this impossible to understand.  All "information" needs a physical
: >substrate (eg light pulses, CD ROM...) and so "Free information" seems
: >impossible.
: >
: >  Tom Schneider   http://www-lmmb.ncifcrf.gov/~toms/

: Consider the gravitational "substrate" provided by the ancient relativity
: of the earth, the moon and the sun (as a first approximation).

: Theoretically, there should exist some specific level of activity within
: the organism which would have the potential to use this gravitational
: substrate as a field of reference for motion and/or resonance.

: Certainly our perception of time and other key informational concepts
: have ben derived from the "cosmic environment" - and by this I mean
: our local celestial configuration - a terrestrial earth/moon binary
: system orbiting a journeying yet central sun.

Although your example is a vague, it could be interpreted as "environmental
information".  The tug of gravitational fields of other bodies in space will
probably be so small that they don't affect us much (although on a large
scale we have tides.  Are menstrual cycles correlated with light or the moon
or something else?  What about men's emotional cycles?).  A clear example is
the day/night light cycle, which we know is used to set our internal clocks
(and we even have our hands on some of the "per" genes in Drosophilia!).  In
that case it is photons that carry the information, so there is a physical
substrate and a direct physical effect on the organism.

  Tom Schneider
  National Cancer Institute
  Laboratory of Mathematical Biology
  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
  toms@ncifcrf.gov
  http://www-lmmb.ncifcrf.gov/~toms/