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Article #8617Re: The It from Bit: Quantum Logic and Information Theory
From: Hitesh N Brahmbhatt
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1992 17:34
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1992 17:34
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joslyn@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Cliff Joslyn) writes:
>The following is a quote from the section called "The It from Bit"
>from a recent Scientific American article on modern quantum philosophy.
>"Quantum theory may demmand a revamping of our concepts of rationality
>and logic. Boolean logic, which is based on either-or propositions,
>suffices for a world in which an atom goes through one slit or the
>other, but not both slits. Bub [Jeffery, U.MD philosophy] concedes,
>however, that none of the so-called quantum logic systems devised so
>far has proved very convincing."
I read a book by Alistair Rae titled "Quantum Mechanics -Illusion or Reality?"
which goes into different philosophical implications quantum theory with
Copenhagen interpretation as advocated by Neils Bohr, Werner Hiesenberg etc.
It is amusing book for an outsider like me.Everything in this book is explained
in backdrop of "Photon polarisation experiment" as a quantum event.The facts
itself about the experiment are startling.After delving into all different
efforts to devise self-consistent quantum philosophy, he declares that only
theory which is "Economic on presumption but expensive on Universes" was
one which says every time a quantum event occurs, the whole universe is
divided into two non-interacting (rather interacting in only restricted
conditions) universes !Then he diverges into the question of "imporatnce
of observer" by investigating Mind and Matter question with emphasis on
determining whether it is possible to have any objective reality ?All these
looked so eerie to me, that I went into Humanities library and picked up
some books on philosophy especially Zen and other oriental and tried to
find some meaning in their striking resemblances.Especially, Zen theory of
"No-self" and "Theory of Void(zero)" by Buddhist monk "Nagarjuna" has really
powerful suggestions.I went back to physics books and tried to look at the
facts about "Fundamental Particles" and I found there are none.Electrons
and Protons continue to be divieded and things have stopped at "Quarks and
Semi-quarks" presently but nobody believes it to be final.Also, Schrodinger
's wave equation and De'Broglie's wave-particle duality has already made the
matter pretty transperant cloud.My feeling is that as long as this subject
is investigated with purpose (it can be anything from building some applied
device to mollify human psyche troubled at the prospect of having to deal
with uncertainity again or reveal the TRUTH ), it will be a self-defeating
exercise.We have to leave humano-centric thinking with Logic and Intelligence
as central paradigm.It does not mean we should believe any "Tom, Dick and Harry"
but these philosophies look worth investigating like those of Greek
Parmenides.
>"Various theorists are trying to recast quantum physics in terms of
>information theory, which was developed 44 years ago to maximize the
>amount of information transmitted over communications channels.
>Already these investigators have found that Heisenberg's uncertainty
>principle, wave-particle duality and non-locality can be formulated
>more powerfully in the context of information theory."
Although, My article has been on little tangent but point that I wanted
to make was that for a physicist atleast there is no dichotomy of Material
and Spiritual worlds.
>I'd like to know more. I am aware that a few physicists are advancing
>a Zadeh-Brower quantum logic (essentially the standard fuzzy logic) to
>quantum spaces, and are playing with relaxed excluded middles to
>account for quantum uncertainty ("Unsharp Particle-Wave Duality in a
>Photon Split-Beam Experiment", P. Mittelstaedt, A Prieur, R. Schieder,
>Foundations of Physics, 17:9, 1987, pp. 891-903).
>But especially the second paragraph quoted intrigues me.
>Can anyone lend some expertise?
>Thanks.
>O----------------------------------------------------------------------------->
>| Cliff Joslyn, Cybernetician at Large, 327 Spring St #2 Portland ME 04102 USA
>| Systems Science, SUNY Binghamton NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
>| cjoslyn@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu joslyn@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov
>V All the world is biscuit shaped. . .
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