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Article #8705Re: Quantum effects in the brain
From: Bill Vajk
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:30
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:30
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Kenneth 'pawl' Collins wrote: > What I'm saying is that it's possible to converge upon 0., above, > without actively invoking 'chance', even though such will be > passively present. > Is what's here sufficient? No. Not at all. You omit the overdriven system aspects completely which alters the basic conjectures and the outcomes. Thus there is always a range of possible responses resembling randomness coupled with unpredictable neural misfires and random outside factors like being bumped on the head (or unexpected pain or a million other things.) See also "complexity." Then throw diet, allergies, and excitability in for good measure. These are all variables which come into and go out of play in completely unpredictable ways but affect outcomes. There are other factors as well far too numerous to get into here. A non-model human brain isn't something we're ready to get our hooks into just yet. Obviously you can make any predictions you might care to if you first establish the model, but that's a form of cheating. There's no real world correlation to such a model. William J. Vajk Techny, Illinois
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