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Article #8719Re: Quantum effects in the brain
From: Franz Heymann
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 23:05
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 23:05
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"Kenneth 'pawl' Collins" <k.p.collins@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:f2nT9.103257$hK4.8387369@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Does Penrose still hold that view? There appears nothing above that question to which it might refer. Don't top post. Don't throw away the headers. > There's nothing 'quantum' required. It's all just macroscopic TD > E.I-minimization. That is gobbledegook. > > Todd A. Anderson wrote in message ... > |In "The Emperor's New Mind", Roger Penrose argues that parts of the > |brain exist simultaneously in multiple states due to quantum effects > but > |that once the maximum difference between any two of these states > |reaches a certain threshold the wave function collapses. I always > thought > |the need for conscious to collapse the wave function was silly. > | > |Todd > | > |"UKComplaint" <ukcomplaint@lycos.com> wrote in message > |news:67ab52c2.0301071558.7e44fc36@posting.google.com... > |> Physicist Henry Margenau (quoted by Sir John Eccles) states that > the > |> components of the brain 'are small enough to be governed by > |> probabilistic quantum laws' and are 'always poised for a multitude > of > |> possible changes, each with a definite probability'. > |> > |> Is Margenau's view (that actions in the brain might be subject to > |> quantum effects) generally accepted withnin science? > |> > |> N.B. The blurb for the forthcoming Quantum Mind 2003 Conference on > |> Consciousness, Quantum Physics and the Brain to be hosted by the > |> University of Arizona states "recent experimental evidence > suggests > |> quantum nonlocality occurring in conscious and subconscious brain > |> function, and functional quantum processes in molecular biology > are > |> becoming more and more apparent." Franz Heymann
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111f18,1779a484ccbb071c X-Google-Attributes: gid111f18,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,1779a484ccbb071c X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,1779a484ccbb071c X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-10 15:06:21 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!btnet-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail From: "Franz Heymann" <Franz.Heymann@btopenworld.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,bionet.neuroscience,alt.consciousness Subject: Re: Quantum effects in the brain Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 23:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 53 Message-ID: <avnjjj$nu$5@venus.btinternet.com> References: <67ab52c2.0301071558.7e44fc36@posting.google.com> <avihgb$i2f$1@news01.intel.com> <f2nT9.103257$hK4.8387369@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-122-59-48.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: venus.btinternet.com 1042239923 766 213.122.59.48 (10 Jan 2003 23:05:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 23:05:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200