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Re: How many bits are necessary to store the universe?

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From: jmfbahciv
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:12
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In article <1131903278.110803.307480@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
   "Stevie B" <StevenBeardsley@aol.com> wrote:
>
>jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
>> In article <1131888229.673114.178240@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>>    donstockbauer@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >The fallacy is that you don't have a real universe if you "program your
>> >own universe or digitize the existing universe on a computer", you just
>> >wind up with a simulated one.  It's the difference between software and
>> >hardware.  People seem to not realize this anymore.  You can't serach
>> >the entire real universe in a few seconds with google.  You can't send
>> >the real universe over a phone line.
>>
>> The above left in for context...
>>
>> > ...  People need to get out from in
>> >front of a terminal for 19 hours a day and experience reality.
>>
>> Amazing.  Do you practice what you preach?
>>
>> /BAH
>
>Judging from his previous posts, the answer to this is yes.

I wouldn't guess that.  He's always posting inanities.

>  Getting
>your sustenance from a small farm by tending groves and livestock,
>fixing fences, and chopping firewood sounds closer to nature than my
>life does.
>
>But even without outdoor exercise I think that it should be obvious
>that questions about the universe being digitized on a computer are
>rather silly.  

We always started with the silly and then honed down to produce
something extremely useful.

> ..To seriously entertain such matters would indicate a
>certain naivity about software programming 

Well, of course, there is naivity.  Did you read what
I wrote?  Every "youngster" should think about this.

>..as well as an
>underestimation of what the universe really is.

Exactly!!!  A person who thinks about this eventually
will begin to learn that there are limits to computing.
This is NOT currently taught, understood nor encountered
in many, many areas.
>
>Then again, far be it from me to criticize anyone for being silly on
>Usenet.  That's half the fun, right?  Go for it.

How do you think the golden oldie bit gods started a major
project?

/BAH
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