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Article #8810Re: How many bits are necessary to store the universe?
From: jmfbahciv
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:12
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:12
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In article <1131903278.110803.307480@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Stevie B" <StevenBeardsley@aol.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> In article <1131888229.673114.178240@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >> donstockbauer@hotmail.com wrote: >> >The fallacy is that you don't have a real universe if you "program your >> >own universe or digitize the existing universe on a computer", you just >> >wind up with a simulated one. It's the difference between software and >> >hardware. People seem to not realize this anymore. You can't serach >> >the entire real universe in a few seconds with google. You can't send >> >the real universe over a phone line. >> >> The above left in for context... >> >> > ... People need to get out from in >> >front of a terminal for 19 hours a day and experience reality. >> >> Amazing. Do you practice what you preach? >> >> /BAH > >Judging from his previous posts, the answer to this is yes. I wouldn't guess that. He's always posting inanities. > Getting >your sustenance from a small farm by tending groves and livestock, >fixing fences, and chopping firewood sounds closer to nature than my >life does. > >But even without outdoor exercise I think that it should be obvious >that questions about the universe being digitized on a computer are >rather silly. We always started with the silly and then honed down to produce something extremely useful. > ..To seriously entertain such matters would indicate a >certain naivity about software programming Well, of course, there is naivity. Did you read what I wrote? Every "youngster" should think about this. >..as well as an >underestimation of what the universe really is. Exactly!!! A person who thinks about this eventually will begin to learn that there are limits to computing. This is NOT currently taught, understood nor encountered in many, many areas. > >Then again, far be it from me to criticize anyone for being silly on >Usenet. That's half the fun, right? Go for it. How do you think the golden oldie bit gods started a major project? /BAH
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