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Article #8816Re: How many bits are necessary to store the universe?
From: Traveler
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:29
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:29
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On 13 Nov 2005 03:52:09 -0800, "Eliot Coweye" <cia_deviator@lycos.com> wrote: >Just in case I want to program my own universe or digitize the existing >universe on a computer, how many bits do I need to create a working >universe? Question is, in what universe do you store the computer that runs your simulated universe? The universe is indeed a discrete computer (cellular automaton), meaning that it is both the hardware (particles) and the software (principles of operation). The question regarding how many bits it would take to digitize the universe is not nearly as interesting as: what are the constituents, what are their intrinsic properties and under what principles do they operate? It is about time that we move to a physics that looks at nature from the POV of the particles rather than that of some dumb observer or some FOR that the particles could not possibly give shit about. One man's opinion PS. Good topic. Louis Savain Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix It: http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm
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