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Article #8903Re: The Mann and the Hockey Stick
From: Billy
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 23:59
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In article <eO2dnaVPBqkWdeDSnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@bright.net>, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@HotMail.com> wrote: > "Billy" <wildbilly@withoutta.net> wrote in message > news:wildbilly-5076EA.21573204042012@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au... > > In article <Y8ednQjhR_VcfOHSnZ2dnUVZ_qgAAAAA@giganews.com>, > > RLW <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:05:30 -0700, Chom Noamsky wrote: > >> > >> > On 3/31/2012 7:27 PM, RLW wrote: > >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:18:28 -0400, Leonard wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Abracadabra, No More Mediรฆval Warm Period! > >> >>> > >> >>> The lies behind the failed Hockey Stick > >> >> > >> >> <yada, yada, yada> > >> >> > >> >> I'm starting to get the impression that few posting here actually know > >> >> what the "hockey stick" graph was intended to represent: runaway, > >> >> nearly limitless increase in surface temperature. > >> >> > >> >> A) We know that's wrong. > >> >> > >> >> B) We know that the troposphere is getting warmer. > >> >> > >> >> (A) does nothing to disprove (B). Indeed, (B) is something > >> >> *observed*, > >> >> not a matter open to debate. > >> >> > >> >> (B) means that a lot of weather patterns will change and a lot of ice > >> >> will melt. This doesn't mean Humanity will die off, but it will be > >> >> very damn' expensive and inconvenient for a good many folks. > >> >> > >> >> I'll hate having to explain to my grandkids that everyone stood around > >> >> debating whether it was happening instead of figuring out what impact > >> >> it will have and how to solve some of the attendant problems. > >> > > >> > The assumption is it that warming will be all bad. How many studies > >> > have been done on the potential benefits of global warming? What it > >> > comes down to is the cost of adaption versus the cost of correction. > >> > That's assuming it can be corrected, and in the view of a substantial > >> > portion of the scientific community the results would be modest or > >> > negligible at best. > >> > > >> > The big problem is elements of the political sphere have been trying > >> > their best to hook irrelevant agendas to climate change, and to exploit > >> > it as a tool to push things that wouldn't get backing otherwise. Get > >> > people alarmed, induce feelings of insecurity, then they'll be less > >> > resistant when it comes to unpopular causes that have little or nothing > >> > to do with climate change. > >> > > >> > It's interesting that the Darrell Kaufman study showed climate has been > >> > experiencing a long term cooling trend, starting about 2,000 years ago, > >> > and was projected to go on another 4,000 years. Is it possible we're > >> > actually better off with a little warming? Quite possibly we've > >> > averted > >> > a future LIA... > >> > >> I'm not even assuming that the effects will be all bad. The first > >> benefits which come to mind are to shipping and farmers in Canada. > >> Still, > >> any sort of large-scale reorganization of society is costly, so we'd best > >> be puzzling out the details now, before it becomes an immediate problem. > > > > Oh, the sweet security of innocence. > > <http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=hit-them-with-the-hockey> > > > Or is that the sweet security of stupidity > Too bad that "hockey stick" is broken. > Citation, please, or are you so stoopid as to think your opinion is fact? -- E Pluribus Unum Know where your money is tonight? It's making the lives of Wall Street Bankers more comfortable. The GOP is chasing us towards a cliff called "Obama." Vote 3rd Party
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From: Billy <wildbilly@withoutta.net>
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Subject: Re: The Mann and the Hockey Stick
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