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From: Leonard
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:04
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On 3/31/12 10:27 PM, in article
QIadnZ5kA-hjIerSnZ2dnUVZ_goAAAAA@giganews.com, "RLW" <rlwatkins@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:18:28 -0400, Leonard wrote:
>
>> > Abracadabra, No More Medi�val Warm Period!
>> >
>> > The lies behind the failed Hockey Stick
>
> <yada, yada, yada>
>
> I'm starting to get the impression that few posting here actually know
> what the "hockey stick" graph was intended to represent: runaway, nearly
> limitless increase in surface temperature.
>
> � Sssssuuurrrre
> � However it was a fabrication that can not
> bear the sight of light.
>
> A) We know that's wrong.
>
> B) We know that the troposphere is getting warmer.
>
> � FALSE
>
> (A) does nothing to disprove (B). Indeed, (B) is something *observed*,
> not a matter open to debate.
>
> � FALSE
>
> (B) means that a lot of weather patterns will change and a lot of ice will
> melt. This doesn't mean Humanity will die off, but it will be very damn'
> expensive and inconvenient for a good many folks.
>
> � FALSE � The next 100 years or more a
> lot of ice will form and less will melt
>
> I'll hate having to explain to my grandkids that everyone stood around
> debating whether it was happening instead of figuring out what impact it
> will have and how to solve some of the attendant problems.
� Well Watkins, you have a lot to learn.
Prepare your car for winter weather.
Prepare your house for power outages. Get
gas furnace, fridge, stove, and standby power
generator (for thermostats, small appliances,
and car heater).
� �
There are three types of people that you
can_not_talk_into_behaving_well. The
stupid, the religious fanatic, and the evil.
1- The stupid aren't smart enough to follow the
logic of what you say. You have to tell them
what is right in very simple terms. If they do
not agree, you will never be able to change
their mind.
2- The religious fanatic: If what you say goes
against their religious belief, they will cling
to that belief even if it means their death.
3- There is no way to reform evil- not in a
million years. There is no way to convince
anthropogenic_global_warming_alarmists,
terrorists, serial killers, paedophiles, and
predators to change their evil ways, They
knew what they were doing was wrong, but
knowledge didn't stop them. It only made
them more careful in how they went about
performing their evil deeds.
� �
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<FONT FACE=3D"Baskerville Old Face"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:14.0px'>On 3/31/12=
10:27 PM, in article QIadnZ5kA-hjIerSnZ2dnUVZ_goAAAAA@giganews.com, "R=
LW" <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Baskerville Old Face"><SPAN STYLE=3D'fo=
nt-size:14.0px'>On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:18:28 -0400, Leonard wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> Abracadabra, No More Mediæval Warm Period!<BR>
> <BR>
> The lies behind the failed Hockey Stick<BR>
<BR>
<yada, yada, yada><BR>
<BR>
I'm starting to get the impression that few posting here actually know <BR>
what the "hockey stick" graph was intended to represent: runaway,=
nearly <BR>
limitless increase in surface temperature.<BR>
<BR>
ø Sssssuuurrrre<BR>
ø However it was a fabrication that can not <BR>
bear the sight of light.<BR>
<BR>
A) We know that's wrong.<BR>
<BR>
B) We know that the troposphere is getting warmer.<BR>
<BR>
ø FALSE<BR>
<BR>
(A) does nothing to disprove (B). Indeed, (B) is something *observed*=
, <BR>
not a matter open to debate.<BR>
<BR>
ø FALSE<BR>
<BR>
(B) means that a lot of weather patterns will change and a lot of ice will =
<BR>
melt. This doesn't mean Humanity will die off, but it will be very da=
mn' <BR>
expensive and inconvenient for a good many folks.<BR>
<BR>
ø FALSE — The next 100 years or more a<BR>
lot of ice will form and less will melt<BR>
<BR>
I'll hate having to explain to my grandkids that everyone stood around <BR>
debating whether it was happening instead of figuring out what impact it <B=
R>
will have and how to solve some of the attendant problems.<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Baskerville Old Face"><SPAN STYLE=3D'f=
ont-size:14.0px'><BR>
ø Well Watkins=
, you have a lot to learn.<BR>
Pre=
pare your car for winter weather.<BR>
Pre=
pare your house for power outages. Get <BR>
gas=
furnace, fridge, stove, and standby power<BR>
gen=
erator (for thermostats, small appliances,<BR>
and=
car heater).<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Times, Times New Roman"><SPAN STYL=
E=3D'font-size:12.0px'>— — <BR>
<BR>
There are three types of people that you <BR>
can_not_talk_into_behaving_well. The <BR>
stupid, the religious fanatic, and the evil. <BR>
<BR>
1- The stupid aren't smart enough to follow the <BR>
<BR>
logic of what you say. You have to tell them<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D"Lucida Grande, Ver=
dana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times, Times New Roman"> what is right=
in very simple terms. If they do <BR>
<BR>
not agree, you will never be able to change <BR>
<BR>
their mind. <BR>
<BR>
2- The religious fanatic: If what you say goes<BR>
<BR>
against their religious belief, they will cling <BR=
>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Lucida Grande, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times, Times New Roman"> to that belie=
f even if it means their death. <BR>
<BR>
3- There is no way to reform evil- not in a <BR>
<BR>
million years. There is no way to convince <BR>
<BR>
anthropogenic_global_warming_alarmists, <BR>
<BR>
terrorists, serial killers, paedophiles, and <BR>
<BR>
predators to change their evil ways, They<BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Lucida Grande, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times, Times New Roman"> knew what the=
y were doing was wrong, but<BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Lucida Grande, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times, Times New Roman"> knowledge did=
n't stop them. It only made <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Lucida Grande, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times, Times New Roman"> them more car=
eful in how they went about<BR>
<BR>
performing their evil deeds.<BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times, Times New Roman"><BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Lucida Grande, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>
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Subject: Re: The Mann and the Hockey Stick
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