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Article #9062Re: how to prove that sound is a wave ?
From: doug
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:07
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:07
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zookumar yelubandi wrote: > RustyJames wrote: > > >>On May 18, 9:36 am, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote: >> >>>Jack Sprat wrote: >>> >>>>j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>>>In sci.physics Jack Sprat <jack sp...@invalid.uk> wrote: >>> >>>>>>Do you understand, at every level, how a transistor works? What >>>>>>is this "hole" theory then? A form of transmission using >>>>>>nothingness? Why would two materials conduct electricity in one >>>>>>direction, but not the other, based on how they are joined? >>> >>>>>>Sounds pretty magical, no? >>> >>>>>Not hardly; all those semiconductor physics classes made perfect >>>>>sense and things worked like the theory said in the lab. >>> >>>>Where? In trade school? Yes! Just as I thought. >>> >>>Jack is mistaking his ignorance and lack of education for others. >>>Those of us who have studied physics understand this but Jack is >>>enjoying his ignorance while hoping others have the same lack.- Hide quoted text - >>> >>>- Show quoted text - >> >>EM radiation in a vacuum always travels at the speed of light, > > > Here's the crux of the matter. What exactly is a vacuum? Is it > a real space or a conceptualized one? If it cannot be realized, then > everything moves through some medium/aether/substrate. All experiments > that have ever been conducted, were done so under non-vacuum conditions. Well, you should read a physics textbook to see what this means. It is well understood by scientists. > > What has previously been thought of as empty space has now been > conjectured to contain dark matter. String theory further suggests that > we are all bathed in some matter that is not yet understood by us. > > Thought experiment: when you turn on a light switch, the light > "object" putatively goes from zero velocity to C ... what conclusions > can be drawn from this? The conclusion is that you have no idea of what light is. Read a textbook. Nothing is accelerated. Is the light object some kind of looped string > that is permanently set to C and which remains invisible while in this > loop and becomes visible when the loop breaks? Or is the light object > perhaps the excitation of an infinite invisible string (or sigma of an > infinite number of infinitesimal strings) which we perceive as visible > light moving at C after the excitation reaches terminal velocity in the > resisting medium? Is the resisting medium the same throughout the > observable Universe? Is the speed of light the same throughout the > observable Universe? How many more possibilities exist that may shed > some light (pun intended) on the true nature of light, and indeed, the > nature of the Universe? Are we even close to identifying these natures? Look at QM and you will get your answers but it takes some study on your part. > > Yet textbooks have been written that pretend absolute knowledge, > and scientists have been lauded (e.g. Maxwell, Einstein), etc. ... all > because their findings had satisfied the criteria of a primitive science > age (by today's standards). Their work is accepted because it has a century of careful experimental verification behind it. If there were problems, there would be a lot of work going on to investigate them. > > >>relative to the observer, regardless of the observer's velocity. It is >>been said by people smarter than me that Electromagnetic radiation >>does not require a material medium and can travel through a vacuum. > > > A vacuum has never been observed. You do not know what this means. Ergo, claims of independency > from a putative medium has yet to be demonstrated. Ergo, your statement is meaningless. For those of us > whose intuitions point towards a medium, the nature of the putative > medium remains mysterious. If you were to study some, it would not be so mysterious. But we are not claiming otherwise. To wit, > a science left properly untold is truer than a science improperly told. > So you feel that by not studying your are right twice a day like a stopped clock? > > >>The theory of electromagnetic radiation was developed by James Clerk >>Maxwell and published in 1865. He showed that the speed of propagation >>of electromagnetic radiation should be identical with that of light, >>about 186,000 mi (300,000 km) per sec. Subsequent experiments by >>Heinrich Hertz verified Maxwell's prediction through the discovery of >>radio waves, also known as hertzian waves. > > > All Maxwell et al have demonstrated is that visible light is > part of the EM spectrum. As such, the wave equations apply. Nothing > more can be garnered about the nature of light, at least, to this point. > Perhaps string theory will open up a few channels in the > knowledgestream. You do realize that there has been study done in the last century or so regarding these subjects. Reading some science would help your problem. > > > >>now back to your either >>statement, either is a medium it has resistant properties and >>dielectric properties as well one day I will show that directing a >>concentrated electromagnetic beam focused in a straight line down the >>waste beam of a intensely focused beam of light will oscillate an >>electric field generating an oscillating magnetic field, the magnetic >>field in turn generates an oscillating electric field, and so on. >>These oscillating fields together form an electromagnetic wave that >>will pull the dielectric sub straight out of the aether along the path >>of the light beam allowing a secondary path for EMR or light waves to >>propagate faster than C within the waste beam with the lower dialectic >>or resistance value of 330 ohms, even reducing this resistance >>slightly will increase the velocity of both EMR and light's >>propagation within the waste beam path. > > Statements like the above are what come from not studying or understanding science. > > Best of luck. > > -zookumar- > ps: "www.infowars.com" >
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