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Article #9119Re: Aether Displacement
From: mpc755
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:53
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:53
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On Jan 12, 5:23ย pm, john291208 <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote: > On Jan 12, 3:55 pm, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p...@hovnanian.com> wrote: > > > > > "mpc...@gmail.com" wrote: > > > > On Jan 12, 10:40 am, "mpc...@gmail.com" <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 12, 8:13 am, "mpc...@gmail.com" <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 11, 2:58 pm, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p...@hovnanian.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "mpc...@gmail.com" wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:03 pm, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p...@hovnanian.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > "mpc...@gmail.com" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed! ย And how does a particle not have mass? > > > > > > > > > > > If its not really a particle in the classical physics sense. > > > > > > > > > > Explain how a non-classical massless particle exists in nothing. > > > > > > > > > What particle? Light is an electromagnetic wave. The idea that its a > > > > > > > > particles is a simplification used to explain its quantum nature. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Paul Hovnanian ย ย mailto:P...@Hovnanian.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > If your only tool is a hammer then every problem looks like a thumb. > > > > > > > > Wikipedia: > > > > > > > > "A massless particle is a particle whose invariant mass is zero. > > > > > > > Currently, the only known massless particles are gauge bosons: the > > > > > > > photon (carrier of electromagnetism) and the gluon (carrier of the > > > > > > > strong force)." > > > > > > > > "The behavior of massless particles is understood by virtue of special > > > > > > > relativity. For example, these particles must always move at the speed > > > > > > > of light. See Mass in special relativity." > > > > > > > > "General relativity implies that gravitation is quantized by the > > > > > > > graviton, which is a massless tensor boson" > > > > > > > > How does an electromagnetic wave travel through nothing? > > > > > > > I'm afraid you will have to go back and study the basics. Start with > > > > > > static electric and magnetic fields. They produce a force that has an > > > > > > effect over a distance with no intervening medium. > > > > > Show me the experimental evidence where it is proven there is no > > > > medium. > > > > > Why have the probability of a wave when you can have an actual wave in > > > > the aether? > > > > And don't reply with the MM Experiment. > > > > The MM Experiment looked for the aether wind. > > > No, it did not. It looked for the motion of the earth through the > > aether. > > > > Aether displacement is the opposite of the concept of an aether wind. > > > > The fact that the MM Experiment did not find and aether wind is > > > evidence of aether displacement, not that there is no aether. > > > No. The MM experiment failed to find aether moving relative to the earth > > due to the earth's motion. There is no aether to displace. > > It assigned properties to the aether (interaction with a moving body > of matter) > and then tested on the basis of these properties > when it knew nothing about the aether in the first place. > > They haven't ruled out the aether. > All they've ruled out is the effect they decided to search for. > > john Exactly.
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