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Article #954Re: An easy problem in general relativity
From: Joe Voros
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 02:19
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 02:19
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matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Mcinnes B T (Dr)) writes: > Question: what is the mass of the object represented by the > Schwarzschild solution? > Answer: Zero. Exactly zero. It's a vacuum solution, remember? > Comments? [Please don't tell me that the mass is all squashed up "inside > the singularity".] We spent the whole of last year's seminar series in the Relativity Group here trying to understand this. I mean, *understand*, not mouth out all the standard disclaimers. The conclusion: No one has the faintest idea. The only way to operationally define mass is to take the far-field limit --- the ``stuff'' inside an infintely large two-surface. This means being able to handle asymptotically-flat spacetimes, the latter concept being fairly ill-defined, despite many (!) elegant definitions offered in the literature. At some point it becomes necessary to throw away the non-linearity of the Einstein equations, either directly (Fierz-Pauli spin 2 gravity, for example), or by a mathematical trick which brings infinity ``over here where I can deal with it without getting the screaming heebie-geebies.'' The ``linearization'' of the equations is trickier than you might think. Think about it for a while and you'll agree. -- Joe Voros Department of Physics, Monash University, Clayton, VIC, 3168, Australia. Quantum Mechanics is God's way of telling you to mind your P_i's and Q_j's.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!munnari.oz.au!bruce.cs.monash.edu.au!monu6!physics.monash.edu.au!voros From: voros@physics.monash.edu.au (Joe Voros) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: An easy problem in general relativity Message-ID: <1992Aug10.121958.89713@physics.monash.edu.au> Date: 10 Aug 92 12:19:58 +1000 References: <1992Aug7.092922.11852@nuscc.nus.sg> Organization: Physics Department, Monash University, Australia. Lines: 31