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Re: Super Conducting Supercollider

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From: Cameron Randale Bass
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 18:06
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In article <1992Aug10.150519.7537@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Dr. Norman J. LaFave) writes:
>In article <10121@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>, hall@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Hal Lillywhite) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1992Aug7.192009.29866@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Dr. Norman J. LaFave) writes:
>> 
>> >Furthermore, the cost per scientific discovery is always better with a flexible
>> >device like the Supercollider.
>> 
>> ????  Documentation please.  A good place to start would be with
>> cost per discovery of other large accelerators.  A rough estimate of
>> cost per discovery for SSC would then be obtainable by ratioing the
>> cost of the tools (unless we can come up with a reason to believe
>> that SSC will make more or fewer discoveries than machines already
>> on line have done).  We could then compare this with cost per
>> discovery of advances made in other areas such as condensed matter
>> physics.
>> 
>> 
>
>This comparison makes no sense since the proposed experiments of the
>SSC can only be done on a machine like the SSC. Furthermore, comparison to
>condensed matter experiments is like comparing apples to oranges.

     The assertion about 'cost per discovery' makes no sense.  

>However, the fact is that thousands of experiments are going to be performed
>on the SSC over the 30 year life span employing hundreds of researchers.
>An analysis of the cost which does not
>take this into account is flawed. Furthermore, I have been involved in setting
>up two condensed matter experiments and two electro-optics experiments. These
>experiments cost millions of dollars and ran for one month to two years and
>employed (on average) 2 to 7 researchers. You ratio that out.

     Thousands?  

     Maybe they will be washing cars after all...

                                   dale bass



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