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Article #1515Re: "What's New" July-24-1992
From: SCOTT I CHASE
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:57
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:57
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In article <JMC.92Jul25123947@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>, jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy) writes... >My opinion is that the physicists are mistaken about the space >station, imagining they could get some of the money saved by the >cancellation. > >The reason for the space station is only marginally science and >even more marginally prestige. The space station is a start on >human expansion into the solar system. That is what generates >the public support for it. It may not be the best design, but >it's the only design we have, and the scientist opposition has >made matters worse, not better. I think that you completely misunderstand the stand that "physicists" have taken with regard to the Space Station. First of all, I know of nobody who seriously expects an increased physics budget if the Space Station goes belly up. Secondly, you have exactly stated, in the paragraph above, the precise reason that the APS and other societies have come out "against" the Space Station. Technically, I don't think they have ever suggested that it should not be built. Rather, they complain that the supposed "scientific" motivation is largely just political hype and that the Space Station should be judged not on the basis of its (neglible) scientific utility but rather for its value as a vehicle for exploration. I personally take it very seriously when the politicians try to coopt the prestige of the scientific community by trying to make claims about the scientific benefits of projects they want to fund when in fact the scientific community is highly unified in stating that the project is *not* a good scientific project. I think that it would be wonderful if we can build some kind of permanently manned space station. But I feel that the scientific community has an obligation to the rest of society to offer objective evaluations of public expenditures which are touted as scientific programs. And we clearly have a self-interest in preserving our hard-earned reputation (what little is left) as objective speakers of truth on matters scientific. If we sit back and allow NASA to claim that SSF is worth doing because of the tremendous scientific gains it will bring, then when those gains fail to materialize we will be held responsible, rightly so, for the waste of valuable public funds. If we sell SSF from the beginning for the right reasons then people will not be lead to believe in fairy tales which will never become reality. How many biologists really think that work aboard SSF will lead to a cure for cancer as at least one Senator has been touting lately? -Scott -------------------- Scott I. Chase "The question seems to be of such a character SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV that if I should come to life after my death and some mathematician were to tell me that it had been definitely settled, I think I would immediately drop dead again." - Vandiver
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