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Started by The Flavored Coffeee Guy
Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:11
About the Beef
Author: The Flavored Coffeee Guy
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:11
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:11
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Hello, I am curious about my food. After some research concerning turkey, science discoverd tryptophan was making people feel drowsy. I lived near a beef processing plant at one time, and I know that the animals are kept from eating for 3 days, and shipped. I also know, that when I eat a steak, I feel drowsy or tired. Then my mind wondered over to muscle building steroids, and why do I feel tired after eating a steak? Maybe, the chemistry of being tired for that mammal, is so similar as the muscle building hormons as to have actually taken a tired slaughtered animal and made me tired. If it were worse, I might find myself feeling hungry, right after I eat, and ya' know something, I do. So, could the chemistry of a tired hungry cow, be contributing to the overwhelming plague of obeisity? Ranchers do all of this work of keeping the cattle from eating to empty out their digestive tracts in order to keep ecoli out of the mix, once they've been slaughtered. The lack of sleep is all a part of the procedure and speed of the process. In part that goes with hearding the animal into a coral, shipping the animal, and wait involved with finally processing it. How can we change this, to change the chemistry of people who love beef, and don't like feeling tired and hungry unless they are absolutely stuffed? Help prevent the pandemic of obesity, slaughter a happy cow today.
Re: About the Beef
Author: r norman
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:10
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:10
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On 14 Oct 2006 14:11:30 -0700, "The Flavored Coffeee Guy" <elgersmad@rock.com> wrote: >Hello, > >I am curious about my food. After some research concerning turkey, >science discoverd tryptophan was making people feel drowsy. I lived >near a beef processing plant at one time, and I know that the animals >are kept from eating for 3 days, and shipped. I also know, that when I >eat a steak, I feel drowsy or tired. Then my mind wondered over to >muscle building steroids, and why do I feel tired after eating a steak? > Maybe, the chemistry of being tired for that mammal, is so similar as >the muscle building hormons as to have actually taken a tired >slaughtered animal and made me tired. If it were worse, I might find >myself feeling hungry, right after I eat, and ya' know something, I do. > So, could the chemistry of a tired hungry cow, be contributing to the >overwhelming plague of obeisity? > >Ranchers do all of this work of keeping the cattle from eating to empty >out their digestive tracts in order to keep ecoli out of the mix, once >they've been slaughtered. The lack of sleep is all a part of the >procedure and speed of the process. In part that goes with hearding >the animal into a coral, shipping the animal, and wait involved with >finally processing it. How can we change this, to change the chemistry >of people who love beef, and don't like feeling tired and hungry unless >they are absolutely stuffed? > >Help prevent the pandemic of obesity, slaughter a happy cow today. When you eat beef, the amino acids you take in are almost completely derived from digesting muscle proteins that were synthesized quite a while previously. There might be very small amounts of specific chemicals present that are affected by the animals very recent physiology (and mood), I really doubt that the tryptophan level is changing that much.
Re: About the Beef
Author: The Flavored Coffee Guy
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:44
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:44
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I would anticipate that they would discover a new compound, not being tyrptophan but, another chemical that causes drowsyness. If they had a chemist, I could tell him what to do. Isolate the sugars. The vast majority of chemical compounds are typically carbon chains, and somewhere between a sugar and a starch. Tryptophan http://www.erowid.org/smarts/show_molecule.php?i=tryptophan/tryptophan_2d.gif Sugars http://www.nyu.edu/pages/mathmol/library/sugars/ Steriods http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-steroid-chemistry2.asp Endorphins http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Courses/anphys/1999/Self/Ligands.htm The similarities literally point to a chemical process that would be used to seperate sugars from protiens. > > When you eat beef, the amino acids you take in are almost completely > derived from digesting muscle proteins that were synthesized quite a > while previously. There might be very small amounts of specific > chemicals present that are affected by the animals very recent > physiology (and mood), I really doubt that the tryptophan level is > changing that much.
Re: About the Beef
Author: The Flavored Coffeee Guy
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:11
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:11
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A blood biopsy, reading of all the chemicals present in the blood should tell us which chemicals are increasing in density as a result of stress, and sleeplessness. In the first morning of the experiment take blood from the cattle that's going to be stressed/kept awake. Then every 12 hours to follow another blood sample taken, and the animal kept awake for a total of 72 hours. Then we will be able to find the chemical responsible for our drowsyness, and if we refuse to feed the animal after a 2 week rest period, we'll find out what keeps making me hungry. GET BUSY!! They make tryptophan sleeping tablets, and money. So, why are you sitting there? There is money to be made!
Re: About the Beef
Author: The Flavored Coffeee Guy
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:19
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:19
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Don't think that there wouldn't be a happy pill either. Many ancient rituals that coincide with feasting, often include a prize calf. Now, if you have ever observed calves in the field, there are those that run and jump, and play almost all day. They exhibit what could be considered a love for life, and a prized animal might be a friendly, happy go lucky, playful animal that's a friend to it's owner by it's playful loving nature. When we eat those animals, we also get high or feel the high felt by the animal's emotional state, and it's emotional state and it's chemistry so close to our own, it actually aids in elevating the mood at the party. Therefore, there may be some tangable chemistry to the elevated mood at the party, that's associated to when, how and what kind of animal was slaughtered.
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