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Article #876Re: Pythagorean comma
From: Gregory Taylor
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:00
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:00
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SAF Marc <safmarc@aol.com> wrote: >"Pythagorean comma"? Take a note. Tune another note a perfect fifth higher (i.e. exactly 3/2 the frequency of the original note). Take that note and give us a perfect fifth above that (i.e. 3/2 time 3/2 of the original frequency) do that to derive each of the notes in a 12-tone scale. Of course, you can divide any of the resulting frequencies by 2 to drop them an octave. You'd get something like this (assuming you start from a=440) a=440 e=3/2*440 b=3/2*(3/2*440) f#=3/2*(3/2*(3/2*440)) c#=3/2*.... If you do this long enough, you eventually arrive via the circle of fifths back at a (up from d). But you've got a problem - when you finish dividing by 2 to get the frequencies back into the range of an octave, the frequency you get for a by tuning up by perfect fifths is *higher* than you'd get if you simply took 440 and doubled it to 880. I'll let you sit down and figure out the exact number - it's good practice. The distance between the number you get by multiplying by 3/2 over and over (that is, by tuning your instrument by a series of perfect fifths) and the number you get by simply doubling 440 is a Pythagorean comma. -- I would go to her, lay it all out, unedited. The plot was a simple one, paraphrasable by the most ingenuous of nets. The life we lead is our only maybe. The tale we tell is the must that we make by living it. [Richard Powers, "Galatea 2.2"] Gregory Taylor/Host, RTQE/WORT-FM 89.9/Madison, WI
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fbe8c,45375805ae95b72f X-Google-Attributes: gidfbe8c,public X-Google-Thread: 102cb0,45375805ae95b72f X-Google-Attributes: gid102cb0,public X-Google-Thread: 10ad72,45375805ae95b72f X-Google-Attributes: gid10ad72,public X-Google-Thread: fcd51,c3122ac9cf334b02 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcd51,public X-Google-Thread: 10b15d,45375805ae95b72f X-Google-Attributes: gid10b15d,public X-Google-Thread: 1065a2,45375805ae95b72f X-Google-Attributes: gid1065a2,public X-Google-Thread: f8499,45375805ae95b72f X-Google-Attributes: gidf8499,public X-Google-Thread: 1110fe,45375805ae95b72f X-Google-Attributes: gid1110fe,public From: gtaylor@shell1.msn.fullfeed.com (Gregory Taylor) Subject: Re: Pythagorean comma Date: 1996/01/31 Message-ID: <4emdfd$52l@tricia.msn.fullfeed.com> X-Deja-AN: 137252867 references: <NEWTNews.8433.822973366.muschter@pi-user.pi.net> <4ek62r$1u1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> organization: FullFeed Communications (Internet +1.608.246.2701 info) newsgroups: sci.research,sci.physics.electromag,rec.music.misc,rec.music.compose,nlnet.muziek,nl.muziek,misc.education.science,fj.education.math,alt.uu.math.misc,alt.technology.misc,alt.engineering.electrical