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Re: Will the -REAL- Christians please stand up? Was: What did Judas be

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From: VANWEERDENBURG NICHOLAS JOHN
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 04:59
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In article <1993Jan5.002733.5359@cs.unca.edu> kepley@cs.unca.edu (Brad Kepley) writes:
>>  Really?  I thought the catholic church is lead by the pope, who,
>>according to catholic doctrine, is infallable.
>
>Well maybe you can enlighten me about Catholic Doctrine since I'm not
>Catholic.  Which doctrine exactly are you talking about?  Which document

I'm not up on the specifics, but I do know that as late as about 1979 the
Vatican came out with a statement saying that the VATICAN AND POPE WERE
INFALLIBLE AND THE ROMAN CATHOLIC FOLLOWERS WERE NOT TO QUESTION THEM IN
THE LEAST (IE. IT WAS A SIN TO DO SO ).  A big stink occured at about that time
with rogue Catholic theologans who questioned Vatican dictates.  I believe
in one case one priest or theologian was ordered by the church to be silent
for a year.  After the year was up the man's first words were something like
like "Where was I now," or "To get back to what I was saying,".  I don't 
know if this was around the same time as the Vatican statement.  I'll say
though I first heard of the Vatican's statement when I was about fourteen
and spent hours in complete disbelief about how anyone could follow such
a ridiculous instituition.  If anyone knows the specifics of the above cases
please post them because I would love to know more about them myself.

-Nick
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From: vanweer@ecf.toronto.edu (VANWEERDENBURG NICHOLAS JOHN)
Subject: Re: Will the -REAL- Christians please stand up? Was: What did Judas be
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