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In article <1993Jan5.040946.7937@cs.unca.edu>, kepley@cs.unca.edu (Brad Kepley) writes:
|> >>  However, the German Churches *did* recommend Naziism to their
|> >  followers
|>  
|> I am quite sure that you would admit that many, many people in Germany
|> would change their past if they could.  The difference between me and
|> you is that I don't think of Christians as somehow different than the
|> rest of us. 

You have it backwards in two senses.   First, I'm talking about the 
German *churches*, not christians in general.    The claim was that
no major denomination cooperated with Hitler.   That's wrong.  That's
what I am arguing against.

The second thing you have wrong is that I don't assert that these
people are "somehow different".   I'm saying that they are *the same*.

I'm saying that based on their record, they have no special claim
to moral authority, because they are *not* different to the rest of us.


|>       I don't know for certain if you honestly think they have
|> to be above sin or if you just use that as a reason to beat up on 
|> them.

If I thought that, you can assume I would say it.   In fact, I just
think that an organization with a history of craven moral compromise
is in a poor position to preach morals to the rest of us.


|> So what is the point...cuz I only joined the thread due to what I thought
|> was a pretty unfair attack on the Catholic Church (still do)?  That
|> Churches are sometimes wrong?  Of course they are!  But they know that.
|> Have you ever read Benedicts 'Rule' or Martin Luther? 

Benedict and Luther were doing what I am doing.   They were standing
outside churches and pointing out that the churches had lost all
claim to moral authority.

jon.