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Re: Will the -REAL- Christians please stand up? Was: What did Judas be

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From: David Fox
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 05:39
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In article <1993Jan4.022547.24574@cs.unca.edu> kepley@cs.unca.edu (Brad Kepley) writes:
>>no one could be in any real doubt about what the Nazis intended
>
>Well, now you're not just convicting the Vatican, but also all those people

History shows that the Catholic Church, as an organization, has one of the
worst records for human-rights abuses, perhaps second only to Nazi Germany
or Stalinism, actually.

>  The Catholic Church is led by fallible men who make foreign policy
>mistakes and have many skeletons in their closets, and they can be 
>sanctimonious, just like others (I won't mentionany names). But who 
>hasn't made terrible mistakes, given a thousand years of history and rapidly
>changing moral values?

The Church says that their leaders (Popes) _can't_ make terrible
mistakes.  However, those underneath can, I guess.

According to Catholic dogma, the Pope is given infallibility in matters
of faith and morals.  Assuming this applies retroactively to all past
Popes, the concept is ridiculous, and history proves it to be so. If
you were able to resurrect a bunch of previous Popes, and put them all
in a room, they'd certainly disagree with each other on matters of 
faith and morals.

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David Fox
dfox@quack.sac.ca.us
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