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Re: Will the -REAL- Christians please stand up? Was: What did Judas be

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From: Stan Friesen
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 21:35
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In article <C0D77L.7tH@ecf.toronto.edu>, vanweer@ecf.toronto.edu (VANWEERDENBURG NICHOLAS JOHN) writes:
|> I'm not up on the specifics, but I do know that as late as about 1979 the
|> Vatican came out with a statement saying that the VATICAN AND POPE WERE
|> INFALLIBLE AND THE ROMAN CATHOLIC FOLLOWERS WERE NOT TO QUESTION THEM IN
|> THE LEAST (IE. IT WAS A SIN TO DO SO ).  ...

What you probably read was a newspaper account of a translation of a Vatican
statement.

It was probably seriously distorted, newspapers tend to like to make things simple
and black-and-white.

My understanding of the Roman Catholic doctrine (admittedly second-hand) is that
only certain statements by the Pope are infallible, namely those made 'ex
cathedra' ("from the church").  It is also held (I believe) that the pronouncements
of certain church councils are infallible.

The issue you rmember was probably due to a number of U.S. bishops getting into
'liberal' theology, and deciding to question fundamental Roman Catholic doctrines.

An actual Roman Catholic could probably give you a more detailed answer.
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