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Article #4791Re: Will the -REAL- Christians please stand up? Was: What did Judas betray?
From: Dave Parry
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 13:45
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 13:45
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ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO) writes: > > Churches, by their nature tend to be nationalistic and supportive > of their governemnt. This is human nature. Given any conflict, > I'm sure you will find the tendancy for most churches or religious > groups in that country to be sympathetic towards that country and > certainly not towards an avowed enemy. Of course, this again has > nothing to do with Christian teaching and everything to do with > human nature. > Hmmmm. IMHO, a religion (of any persuasion) should, by default, be above nationalistic leanings, should in fact be independant of nation states. It's first (and arguably only) loyalty should be to God. We have a situation here in the UK where the Queen is the head of the Church of England, and where, I believe, nominations to senior positions in the church are made by the Prime Minister. This mix of politics and religion is, to my mind, totally wrong. I do not subscribe to any formal religion, but must admit I admire Jehovah's Witnesses for attempting to be true to what (IMHO) religion should be - independant, 7-days a week, without hypocrasy. They do not aspire to be politicians, neither do they flaunt wealth as some churches do. Also, they provide all manner of support for their members to help them in their daily lives - from making marriages work to raising children. This to me is what religion should be - helping people through their daily lives. WHy don't I subscribe to it? Their views on blood and their belief that the Bible is the literal word of God. I can't believe these things - or rather have seen nothing yet to convince me. However, as a practising religion, the more mainstream ones could learn a thing or two from it (again IMHO). Dave > > > >jon. > > -- > John G. Ata - Technical Consultant | Internet: ata@hfsi.com > HFS, Inc. VA20 | UUCP: uunet!hfsi!ata > 7900 Westpark Drive MS:601 | Voice: (703) 827-6810 > McLean, VA 22102 | FAX: (703) 827-3729 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year ------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pipex!Q.icl.co.uk!dsbc!ozz!oasis.icl.co.uk!dvp From: dvp@oasis.icl.co.uk (Dave Parry) Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,alt.messianic,alt.atheism Subject: Re: Will the -REAL- Christians please stand up? Was: What did Judas betray? Message-ID: <1624@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk> Date: 7 Jan 93 13:45:33 GMT References: <1993Jan5.131558.26580@hfsi.uucp> Sender: news@oasis.icl.co.uk Followup-To: sci.skeptic Organization: The Mountains of Madness Lines: 48 Nntp-Posting-Host: getafix.oasis.icl.co.uk X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4