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On Jul 9, 1:39 am, "Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote:
> Graham Cooper wrote:
> > On Jul 9, 11:24 am, "Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote:
> >> herc.of.z...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Jul 9, 9:28 am, "Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote:
> >>>> Yes but when you are trying to cool/heat a room you will soon
> >>>> realise that the power required to do so using Peltier cooling (not
> >>>> to mention the costs) will throw your cost effective solar powering
> >>>> ideas into a festering heap.
>
> >>>> But you won't listen to reason, so good luck with it. I would like
> >>>> to see what you come up with though.
>
> >>> Not a room, a cool room.
>
> >>> of course a person producing 50W in heat isn't going to compete with
> >>> a 20W peltier!
>
> >>> so your INSULATION is inversely propotional to your COOLING POWER
>
> >>> most people off the grid buy a chest freezer and put a timer or
> >>> thermostat on it.
>
> >>> better insulation, and opening the door doesn't lose cool.
>
> >>> I might adapt some chest freezers with peltier coolers and tank of
> >>> water inside to keep thermal intertia during noon hours, running off
> >>> solar panels.
>
> >>> the shed is scorching in summer during afternoon, i have to get the
> >>> temperature down or I can't store ANY food!
>
> >> A Peltier cooler setup that size would still likely use more energy
> >> than a conventional freezer box which kinda defeats the purpose
> >> doesn't it? I would insulate the shed walls and ceilings as a matter
> >> of priority. Add some panelling to make it more homely. Should be
> >> DIY simple and would make it more homely not to mention liveable.
>
> > yeh the compressor fridges are more efficient, but peltiers work too
> > and are solid state so you can leave them on for years and run at
> > different amps, no maintenance.
>
> I'd be interested to see what you come up with and see how efficient,
> reliable and cost effective it is.
>
> > I wouldn't' be able to use gas if I sealed the shed up.  this will
> > just be a weekender once I've setup the water tank I can move on..
>
> It could be a very comfortable weekender for little outlay. Shouldn't be a
> problem since you're loaded, right?

Graham lives in a shed.  It's bigger (I think) than the storage shed I
just had built, but not as nice.  Yes, he's clearly "loaded", but he
would get even more loaded if he sealed up the shed and used gas in
it.  Better yet, Graham, seal up the shed and just open the gas valve
a bit, with no flame.  Then you won't have to worry about CO
poisoning.  Happy dreams!

> > Easier to get a caravan or build a full house for something permanent
> > than do up a shed.  But water, power, resources, etc. are good to have
> > on stand by.
>
> Expecting armageddon?

More like expecting the authorities.

> > I boarded off the gaps between the concrete slab and walls so no
> > spiders crawl in anymore
>
> What about the gaps at the top? I found they came in through there and had
> to seal that. Ended up doing it by hanging a ceiling made from silver cell
> insulationl. Secured it using metal screws to the centre beam and let it
> droop slightly and fastened it to the sides with a bit of overlap. Looked
> quite neat and worked a treat. I ilaid some carpet and nsulated the sides of
> the shed and put some panels on to make it into a very comfortable
> workshop/office.

You just can't get much better than a person who pretends to be rich
having to go extra lengths to keep the spiders out of the shed he
lives in, and dreaming of the day he can move on up to a caravan.