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Re: Psychic showdown - challenge to Herc

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From: Peter Bowditch
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:55
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"|-|ercules" <radgray123@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote >>
>>>Give me 100 questions from 20 skeptics members. 
>>>
>>>REAL YES NO QUESTIONS.  Stop the bullshit.
>>>
>>>Give me a page number 1..1000 and line number 1..100 for each question
>>>from the asker.
>>>
>>>Don't tell them I'm using the bible to look up the answer.
>>>
>>>Then you'll have some data to play with!
>> 
>> Nobody cares what method you use to get the answers. It's a black box.
>> Just produce the answers.
>
>
>The answers are subjective, hence a white box is necessary that I obtained
>them in the same manner as a control.

The manner of obtaining the answers is irrelevant. All that matters is
the set of answers. Dream them up, ask God, toss a coin, ask a Ouija
board, ... Just produce answers. Correct answers.

>
>If you give me 3 options of what your question was then I can give a 
>black box answer.  But you still have to tell me the page & line number
>to read your question without you stating it.

I gave you page and line numbers.

>>>>>You won't even do a subjective demo to see what I can do,
>>>>>then flounder around an objective test protocol because you
>>>>>have the idea set in your head that I'm not paranormal and
>>>>>you'll just debunk me with an argument.
>>>> 
>>>> I have the idea you're not paranormal because you have never offered
>>>> any evidence of paranormality.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Here's some paranormal exhibits.
>>>
>>>Q1 (to James Randi)
>>>Can I take your million dollars if you do a test?
>>>--> RANDOM QUOTE -> "Whenever you respond".
>> 
>> Whenever you respond to what? You asked Randi if you could take his
>> money if HE did a test. You were asking him to respond.
>> 
>> FAIL!
>
>
>Wait a minute!!  I thought you couldn't mark a subjective answer.

I was pointing out that the answer you gave could not possibly relate
to the question.

>
>And don't give me BS that yes / no questions must be answered with a
>yes or no.

Why not? That's the way the world works.

>
>>>> Q1. What is the capital city of Canada?
>>>
>>>IDIOTIC QUESTION
>> 
>> But try to answer it anyway.
>
>
>I have, questions of this type.
>
>Same with Raven's VIN just for a demo.
>
>I asked "SHOW ME THE VIN" and pointed on video to V9....

Which is not a valid VIN. FAIL!!!

>
>
>The answer will be like "THATS AN IDIOTIC QUESTION" or "DONT WASTE MY TIME"
>or "LOOK UP A DICTIONARY".

Forget "will be". Give "is".

>>>
>>>> 
>>>> A1 - The Turtles sang "Happy Together"
>>>> A2 - The cactus lies to the East
>>>> A3 - It's Yom Kippur on Tuesday
>>>> 
>>>> Best answer - none of them
>>>> 
>>>> Q2. Is there life on the new planet discovered this week?
>>>> 
>>>> A1 - Whatever it is
>>>> A2 - Yo momma wears combat boots
>>>> A3 - Pythagoras was Greek
>>>
>>>
>>>GIVE ME A PAGE AND LINE NUMBER
>>>
>>>AND GET A BLIND JUDGE READY WHO HASN'T SEEN ANY ANSWERS
>> 
>> Nobody had seen the answers before they were discovered. These were
>> randomly selected phrases.
>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Best answer - none of them
>>>> 
>>>> Q3. If I am the eggman, who is the walrus?
>>>> 
>>>> A1 - The stars come out at night
>>>> A2 - I got a plastic fox in my Happy Meal
>>>> A3 - Cabbage is a cruciferous vegetable
>>>> 
>>>> Best answer - none of them
>>>> 
>>>> Q4. How many beans make five?
>>>> 
>>>> A1 - Fourteen days in a fortnight
>>>> A2 - Insulin is made in the pancreas
>>>> A3 - White smoke indicates that a new Pope has been chosen
>>>> 
>>>> Best answer - none of them
>>>> 
>>>> Q5. What is the third track on the fourth CD down in the rack in my
>>>> lounge room?
>>>> 
>>>> A1 - He wore a paisley tie and a diamond earring
>>>> A2 - Concrete is very strong in compression
>>>> A3 - Larks' tongues in honey
>>>> 
>>>> Best answer - none of them
>>>> 
>>>> Q6. Is Goulburn in the Goulburn Valley?
>>>> 
>>>> A1 - When the telephone rings the dog barks
>>>> A2 - I have lost my iPhone cable
>>>> A3 - And the caramel sauce dripped from her chin
>>>> 
>>>> Best answer - none of them
>>>
>>>
>>>CONGRATS - JUST BY FLUKE YOU MANAGED 1 (ONE) QUESTION
>>>OF LEGITIMATE INTEREST
>>>
>>>I AM AMAZED.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>You've spent 9 years whining about subjectiveness of answers that can't be marked right or wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> If they can't be marked right or wrong then they demonstrate nothing.
>>>
>>>BULLSHIT.
>>>
>>>A BOOK TALKS WHEN I OPEN THE PAGE.  IT'S EVIDENT.
>> 
>> Not to me. Please stop shouting.

>>>>>
>>>>>Forget ANSWERS - just mark which answer is BEST.
>>>> 
>>>> The best answer is the correct one.
>>>
>>>
>>>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ONE CORRECT ANSWER.
>> 
>> You asked for questions with a Yes/No answer. There can only be one
>> correct answer to such a question.
>> 
>>>
>>>SHOULD I GO FOR A WALK?
>> 
>> Yes. That is always a good idea, because it helps to get the weight
>> off.
>
>
>It's raining.

So what? Is that your "answer" to the question?

>>>>>
>>>>>You could at least organize a simple buy subjective demo comparing my random quote answers
>>>>>to someone Else's random quote answers.
>>>> 
>>>> How do your random quote answers compare to mine, Darryl's and Cody's
>>>> for the six questions above?
>>>
>>>
>>>WAITING FOR THE RANDOMLY THOUGHT UP PAGE AND LINE NUMBER.
>> 
>> Waiting for you to provide your random answers to the six questions.
>> 
>> Page numbers start at 103 and increment by 13 each time.
>> Line numbers start at 47 and decrement by 6 each time.
>> 
>
>
>
>Well I used your numbering scheme, please don't use that again,
>and got something about a lamb.

You should have got 6 "answers". What were they?

>
>Maybe there is sheep on the planet?

Is that supposed to be an answer from God about something?

>
>
>Herc
> 

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