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On 30/09/2010 7:24 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 30/09/2010 6:35 PM, |-|ercules wrote:
>> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote ...
>>> If you remove the parenthesese, and include "declare to" then that is
>>> something that is objectively determinable, but you claim your power
>>> does not, or at least might not, work if people make false
>>> declarations, with the result that the protocol would still not be
>>> testing for your power.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>>
>> Putting the clause "they declare XYZ" does not impact the scientific
>> statement,
>> it's just an arbitrary clause of the claim.
>>
>> Therefore it has no impact on the validity of the test and you are wrong.
>>
>> Thinking of any idea will work.
>> Thinking of any idea and making a declaration of interest - improved
>> results.
>
>
> If that will work, then test that. The idea is A, B or C. That is, the
> idea is a letter. The person declares that they have an interest (it
> doesn't matter whether it's true). You decide which letter. Easy. No
> arguments. Done.
>
> Sylvia.

Added alt.paranoid.thinking

Actually, I'd forgotten about one of my earlier concerns. A record of 
which letter the person thought of would have to be made, presumably by 
asking them what it was and writing it down. When he fails the test, 
Herc could claim that some people thought of one letter, but lied when 
asked what it was (even though they wouldn't at that point know what 
Herc's answer was). He would further claim that just enough people had 
done this to offset his higher than chance hit rate bringing the actual 
hit rate back down to 1 in 3.

Sylvia.
>
>
>> Thinking of actually interesting ideas - more improved.
>> Thinking of a question - more improved.
>> Thinking of a question and declaration of interest - more improved.
>> Thinking of a question and actually interested - maximum psychic powers
>> displayed.
>>
>> The general claim is line 1 - the suggested test protocol is the 2nd
>> last line.
>>
>> My question to you is NOT whether the stated claim will definitely
>> demonstrate
>> my known supposed power should it exist, it's whether Paranormal Claim 2
>> with
>> any suitable minor modifications discussed here is a testable paranormal
>> claim.
>>
>> Herc
>>
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