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Re: Psychic showdown - challenge to Herc

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From: Sylvia Else
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 06:02
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On 1/10/2010 3:34 PM, |-|ercules wrote:
> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote...
>>> Just get a few judges to blindly score which answer is better.
>>
>> In practice I don't think that would work, even though it is arguably
>> a valid protocol.
>>
>> In the trial you did where I submitted two groups of three questions,
>> I found it next to impossible to choose matchings between your
>> responses and the original questions (though my doing that didn't form
>> part of the test protocol). The fact that you believe that the
>> responses had been shuffled somehow doesn't alter the fact that faced
>> with the task of choosing matches, I'd have got next to nowhere. Even
>> if matches exist, as you claim, it would seem that most people can't
>> recognise them, and the judges would essentially be randomly ordering
>> them even if you weren't, meaning you would fail the test even if your
>> power exists.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
>
> My quote against a single random quote will be easy to pick.
>
> You missed "DARK MATTER?" --> "it's an illusion".
>
> You missed "CITY OF ATLANTIS" --> "house of merchandise"
>
> You missed "ANY ALIENS" --> "kept looking"
>
> You really didn't try, if you were stuck in a prison with the answers being
> the lock sequence I'm sure you'd get out in 2 minutes.

Well, let's look at those questions and your response again.

----
1 Is there intelligent life anywhere in the Galaxy other than Earth?
Look again

2 Does dark matter really exist?
that must have been an illusion

3 Was there really a lost city called Atlantis?
Not my house - a house of merchandise
(house = place to live = city of treasure)

4 Does Qantum phase entanglement represent something real?
Tourist who lost his way.
(Is he a real citizen??)

5 Is there a binary, or greater, neutron star pair near enough to render
humans extinct when they merge as a result of radiating gravity waves?
Hermanas, La Cinta, La Ibense, Los Parientes, El Bar Angeles
(to name a few)

6 Will a single theory-of-everything ever prevail?
"I'm sorry" he said.
---

"Look again" could equally apply to Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4, Q5. Ok, not Q6.

"That must have been an illusion" could apply to Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4.

"Not my house - a house or merchandise" I wouldn't have picked any. I 
haven't thought of Atlantis as being a city of treasures. Maybe that 
just means my knowledge of the legend of Atlantis is lacking, but if so 
that's the situation in which I would have been working.

"Tourist who lost his way". I'd say Q1 only. Specifically not Q4 - your 
link between tourist and citizen is not a link I would be inclined to 
make, not even after seeing it.

"Hermanas, ..." I would have no clue about.

"I'm sorry" - could be a negative answer to any question that contained 
a suggestion that the questioner is hoping for a an affirmative answer, 
or an affirmative answer where the questioner is likely hoping for a 
negative answer (as in my Q5).

So the only response I have have any confidence about matching to a 
question would actually not be the match you chose.

So you could lock me in a cell until I provided matches - but they'd 
still be pretty much random.

It's a bit odd really. Most of these threads are about you claiming to 
be able to do something, and the rest of us doubting it. But here I am 
claiming NOT to be able to do something, and that's what you're doubting.

Sylvia.
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