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Article #5084Re: AUSTRALIAN SKEPTICS RENEGE ON THEIR OWN PROTOCOL
From: Sylvia Else
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:49
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:49
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On 29/09/2010 12:48 PM, |-|ercules wrote: > "Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote ... >> On 29/09/2010 12:14 PM, |-|ercules wrote: >>> You've probably heard Sylvia Else backing down from doing an >>> objective test of my mind reading powers, saying again and again >>> that a negative result doesn't prove I DON'T have powers so what is >>> the point? >> >> We started an objective test, but you bailed out after just two >> results were in, since they were not to your liking. > > > I "bailed" on one particular protocol that we introduced mid way through > one test, > by suggesting a better way of indexing the questions. > > ME : suggest continue testing - make 1 change due to 1 failed result > YOU : 500 excuses to not test = BAIL > > I have enough statistical evidence from 0/6 questions right to know when > to try something different. > > >> >> It's a no-win situation for me. I fully expect you to fail any test. >> But you won't then accept that you don't have the power. Instead, at >> best you'll want to start the whole laborious process again with some >> variant of the protocol. At worst, and on the evidence, most probably, >> you'll accuse me of subverting the protocol in some way so as to >> prevent you from succeeding. You'll also engage in various forms of >> abuse. There are plenty of examples of that stored in Google's Usenet >> archive. >> >> In our recent discussions, it's become clear that you believe your >> power draws a distinction between what people think and what they do, >> being sensitive to the former rather than the latter. Pending the >> construction of real mind-reading machines, this makes your power >> completely immune to any kind of disproof. >> >> In such a situation, why would I, or anyone else, bother? Might as >> well be hanged for a sheep as for a lamb. >> >> Sylvia. > > > Because if you make an offer to test people you have to test people. I > don't > mind you being gutless and seeing nothing in it for you and expecting me > to fail, > but Peter thinking your scientific methodology is correct protocol is a > laugh! > > Herc > On the ASS web site, it says "The test must give a definite yes or no result." http://www.skeptics.com.au/features/prize/ You want people to accept a test that says "yes" or "don't know". Such tests don't qualify. Sylvia.
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