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Re: Final Question for Sylvia Else (Inability to fullfill contract)

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From: Wolfgang Wildeblood
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:35
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On Sep 19, 9:35 am, "|-|ercules" <radgray...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Sylvia Else" <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote
>
> >> So far the results I have seen from this protocol show people failing to
> >> make the 'correct' associations, and Herc fixating on the best (3 out of
> >> 5) results and dismissing all of the 'incorrect' responses. So while
> >> looking for a "better than random correlation" suggests taking all the
> >> results together and looking at the average/mean/etc., the reality is
> >> that nobody is recording the totals and Herc is cherry picking the best
> >> outcomes to reinforce his beliefs.
>
> > Yes, to the small extent that it has been applied, the protocol seems to
> > be falsifying Herc's belief.
>
> Wrong!
>
> Les 3/5
>
> AB 1/5
>
> AB 1/5 1/5 1/5  (independent answers)
> Bruce 3/5
>
> Wolfgang 0/5
> Bruce 0/5
>
> Both the last 2 missed "for you here every day" in answer to
> whether the internet was a fad, among others.
>
> Herc

Herc, you claim that Bruce and I deliberately ignored the obvious
answer to thwart your demonstration. Dude, that's defamatory; I don't
know about Bruce, but I did just what you asked, in good faith. If you
think that "for you here every day" is an obvious reference to the
internet, good-o. It's not obvious to me. I'm here almost every day,
Sylvia is here almost every day, Coach is here almost every day. To
me, "for you here every day" is *obviously* a reference to my
question, Is Coach really Sylvia?

What your test has demonstrated is that Herc, Wolfy and Bruce think
differently. That's because at least two of us are different people (I
can't vouch for Bruce not being you). It's as simple as that:
different people, when asked to associate unrelated texts, will make
different associations. That's because the texts are unrelated - there
is no correct association. Even if you had a paranormal ability, this
test could not possibly demonstrate it, unless you're claiming the
ability of Jedi-style mind control - that you could make Bruce and I
choose the same answers as you - in which case, you've failed.
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From: Wolfgang Wildeblood <wolfgangwildeblood@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,aus.legal,misc.legal,aus.tv
Subject: Re: Final Question for Sylvia Else (Inability to fullfill contract)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:35:10 -0700 (PDT)
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