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On 9/26/2010 5:27 AM, |-|ercules wrote:
> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote...
>> On 26/09/2010 10:05 PM, |-|ercules wrote:
>>> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote
>>>> On 26/09/2010 8:44 PM, |-|ercules wrote:
>>>>> "DanielSan" <danielsan@speakeasy.net> wrote
>>>>>> On 9/26/2010 3:31 AM, |-|ercules wrote:
>>>>>>> "DanielSan" <danielsan@speakeasy.net> wrote...
>>>>>>>> On 9/26/2010 3:13 AM, |-|ercules wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "|-|ercules" <radgray123@yahoo.com> wrote ...
>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, it's impossible for me to change my guess and still
>>>>>>>>>> match
>>>>>>>>>> the MD5.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well 99.9999999% of the time it's impossible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can WINZIP your question with 256 bit encryption if you prefer,
>>>>>>>>> then tell you the password after you have posted your question?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, do that. Provide my original question in a zip and then you
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> password protect it so I can't open it until I get the password
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> you. I won't reveal my question until I have confirmation that you
>>>>>>>> can't change it on me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My guess at DanielSan's question (from 3 options)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.hercshome.com/psychicquestion1.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is my cat a tortoiseshell?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not a question of interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> You ticked: I have a genuine or moderate interest in finding out the
>>>>> answer to my question
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you know what breed your own cat is?
>>>>>
>>>>> Null result.
>>>>
>>>> Herc, the time to object to one of the questions is before it is
>>>> determined that you failed to choose it. Waiting until afterwards just
>>>> makes you look dishonest.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> I assumed it was one of the dummy questions.
>>
>> I dare say, but this is meant to be a paranormal test, not a test of
>> deductive reasonining. If you seek to apply the latter, and then
>> reject trials where the reasoning gave the wrong answer, but accept
>> those where it gave the right answer, then you're testing a
>> combination of paranormal power and deductive reasoning, and the
>> results, whatever they are, only relate to the combination. Since such
>> combinations are not what skeptics societies are about, the results
>> won't be of any interest to ASS and the like.
>>
>>>
>>> If Daniel checked this text box it's not my fault.
>>>
>>> You must agree to the following I have a genuine or moderate interest in
>>> finding out the answer to my question.
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like he asked a genuine question, forgot to ask genuine questions
>>> for the other 2 options, saw I was calling him on the test and played
>>> switcheroo.
>>>
>>> He either lied on the form or switched answers.
>>>
>>> But I will keep an eye out for morons in future.
>>
>> Remember what you're trying to achieve here. Convincing yourself is
>> not the object of the exercise. You need to be squeaky clean if you
>> want to have any chance of convincing other people. That means that
>> you either object to a trial before performing it, or accept the
>> outcome, whatever it is.
>>
>> You've previously indicated that it's sufficient if you have an
>> interest in the answer. The obvious course is to accept only those
>> trials for which you have an interest in the answers to all the
>> questions. That way the level of interest the questioner may, or may
>> not, have, won't affect the outcome.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
>
> You have a point that statistically I'm not breaking 3:1 if I apply
> validity
> criteria after the guess has been posted. It looks like he changed
> his answer to see what my guess was, since it's easier to forget to post
> real
> questions on page 2 so his cat was likely a dummy question.... as in an
> unrelated option question.

But I didn't change the question, so pony up with the password.

> But skeptics won't consider the data anyway, not from a website form
> not from a usenet thread. Because the passes could all be rigged from
> communication between the asker and myself. All I can hope to achieve
> is people ask me a question, I get most of them right on usenet and some of
> the askers say I guessed what was on their mind.
>
> Although if I guess 40 out of 60 questions, I'll have 20 angry skeptics
> booing
> every thread and 1 person saying "he got mine right!".
>
> Looks like I'll have to fork out some dough for MindReading.com and buy
> 1,000 hits a day unless people start taking me seriously on the skeptics
> groups.

Herc, what you're showing here is that you have no superpowers at all.

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      DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226
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