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Article #5936BC Skeptics Meeting Fri 3 Feb.
From: Ted Powell
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 06:10
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 06:10
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B.C. SKEPTICS MEETING Friday 3 February, 7:30 pm Halpern Centre, SFU Debunking the Famous Red Running Shoe Hayden Ebbern, Sean Mulligan, and Barry Beyerstein Open to the public, free. Barry Beyerstein has appeared on The Oprah Show, The Shirley Show, Unsolved Mysteries, Forces Beyond, CBC Newsworld, and Town Meeting to debate authors such as Raymond Moody, Betty Eady, Maurice Rawlings, John Mack, and Melvin Morse. The latter believe that in out-of-body experiences (OBEs) the mind or soul really leaves the body (rather than that they are complex hallucinations that feel like that). In such debates occultists usually concede that OBEs like those reported in so-called Near Death Experiences (NDEs) or alien abductions can be due to natural causes in the brain, but they reject this as an explanation for all such events by claiming that some experiencers have "brought back" information that they could not possibly have obtained unless they were really out of their bodies and could still see, hear, remember, etc. The most often cited case of this sort, is that of "Maria," a patient who suffered a cardiac arrest several years ago while in a Seattle hospital. As believers re-tell the story, upon being resuscitated, Maria immediately asked why there was a running shoe on an outside window ledge of an upper floor of the hospital. Supposedly, the shoe would have been invisible to anyone who was not floating in space outside the building. If true, this would be very strong evidence that OBEs are not merely vivid hallucinations generated by a traumatized brain. Because of the importance of this case to the NDE and alien abduction debates, two SFU students, Sean Mulligan and Hayden Ebbern undertook a thorough investigation with Barry Beyerstein's assistance. Hayden and Sean journeyed to Seattle several times, interviewing many key players and carefully reconnoitering the hospital and its environs. As they will show at our next meeting, the believers' "best case" is riddled with errors, exaggerations, and improbabilities. While in Seattle, Sean and Hayden attended a meeting of a group dedicated to proving the objective reality of NDEs. Come and hear what these people accept as "scientific" evidence for an afterlife. The Halpern Centre is a small building at Simon Fraser University just north-east of the Bookstore and just north-west of the Academic Quadrangle. For a map, and for further information about the BC Skeptics, see: http://www.wimsey.com/BC_Skeptics/ or send me email. -- ted@eslvcr.wimsey.com ...!van-bc!eslvcr!ted (Ted Powell)
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