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Article #5955Re: "Near Proof for Near-Death?"
From: Ian Goddard
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 03:42
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 03:42
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Here's the abstract to Lancet's near-death-experience study: **** Background: Some people report a near-death experience (NDE) after a life-threatening crisis. We aimed to establish the cause of this experience and assess factors that affected its frequency, depth, and content. Methods: In a prospective study, we included 344 consecutive cardiac patients who were successfully resuscitated after cardiac arrest in ten Dutch hospitals. We compared demographic, medical, pharmacological, and psychological data between patients who reported NDE and patients who did not (controls) after resuscitation. In a longitudinal study of life changes after NDE, we compared the groups 2 and 8 years later. Findings: 62 patients (18%) reported NDE, of whom 41 (12%) described a core experience. Occurrence of the experience was not associated with duration of cardiac arrest or unconsciousness, medication, or fear of death before cardiac arrest. Frequency of NDE was affected by how we defined NDE, the prospective nature of the research in older cardiac patients, age, surviving cardiac arrest in first myocardial infarction, more than one cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) during stay in hospital, previous NDE, and memory problems after prolonged CPR. Depth of the experience was affected by sex, surviving CPR outside hospital, and fear before cardiac arrest. Significantly more patients who had an NDE, especially a deep experience, died within 30 days of CPR (p<0�0001). The process of transformation after NDE took several years, and differed from those of patients who survived cardiac arrest without NDE. Interpretation: We do not know why so few cardiac patients report NDE after CPR, although age plays a part. With a purely physiological explanation such as cerebral anoxia for the experience, most patients who have been clinically dead should report one. **** The full study is free, you just have to sign up: http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol358/iss9298/full/llan.358.9298.original_research.18751.1 My critique is that if the experience was recorded by the brain, manifesting as a memory, then it occurred while the brain was active (recording); thus the easiest explanation is that the phenomena experienced occurred within the brain. http://IanGoddard.net "To lengthen thy life, lessen thy meals." Benjamin Franklin
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: f88c3,d7d60c28eab87be X-Google-Attributes: gidf88c3,public X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,d7d60c28eab87be X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public X-Google-Thread: f44bc,d7d60c28eab87be X-Google-Attributes: gidf44bc,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-12-17 19:40:01 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: igoddard@erols.mom (Ian Goddard) Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,alt.consciousness.mysticism,bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: "Near Proof for Near-Death?" Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 03:42:17 GMT Organization: IanGoddard.net Lines: 54 Message-ID: <3c1eb8c9.23487579@news.erols.com> References: <3c1e54cd.44797375@news.erols.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbZE/1Bz2lHFWFD8QWFT81B1FjMdIvfHBFtbz+4yWTvbjw9poJ5Bv8v X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Dec 2001 03:39:03 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235