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Article #5960Re: You Must Remember This
From: Michael Jameson
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:21
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:21
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I apologise for my tardy follow-up on this. Bob wrote: > On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 01:56:23 +1000, Michael Jameson > <m.jameson@hunterlink.net.au> wrote: > > >The paper that is the main focus of the article is "DNA recombination as > >a possible mechanism in declarative memory" by Sandra Pena de Ortiz and > >Yuri Arshavsky, Journal of Neuroscience Research, vol 63, p 72 (2001). A > >second paper is also suggested as further reading, for which I found the > >reference and abstract - > > > >Journal of Theoretical Biology 2001 Jan 21;208(2):145-9 > >"Memory and DNA." > >Dietrich A, Been W. > >Institute of Human Genetics, University of Amsterdam, Academic Medical > >Centre, Meibergdreef 15, NL 1105 AZ Amsterdam, The Netherlands. > >a.dietrich@amc.uva.nl > > > >A model is presented for the storage of long-term memory. In our model > >consolidation takes place by specific DNA sequences. These DNA sequences > >are obtained by the recombination of DNA in a similar way to that during > >meiosis and the production of immunological antibodies. DNA has the > >potential of the production of large numbers of specific DNA sequences. > >These sequences can be attached to images of neural networks.The > >following considerations lead to the theory: (1)Most of the DNA is not > >used: approximately 3% of our DNA is used. (2)There are no cell > >divisions in the brain after adulthood is reached. Structural DNA > >arrangements will not be altered nor disrupted as a consequence of cell > >division and mitosis. (3)Chromosomal pairing is demonstrated in the > >brain, which could indicate the exchange of DNA. In addition, in our > >first survey experiments we found a positive reaction of components of > >the synaptonemal complex (SC) in the nuclei of brain cells. The SC is > >highly meiosis specific and plays a major role in genetic recombination. > > > >Copyright 2001 Academic Press. > > > > I don't _know_ any more about it than what you have posted here. But > judging from the JTB abstract, this seems to be basically speculation. Yes. > It is a quite recent article, and the abstract attempting to make the > case provides no evidence for it. There's a little more in the New Scientist article but it's characterised as 'only circumstantial evidence so far'. > It is an interesting speculation, and should be easily testable at > this point. I hope so, I'll keep a look out for such. > Many of the genes involved in immunoglobin gene > arrangements, and other recombination events, are known. They can be > tested in mice to see whether memory defects arise when these genes > are disrupted. Seems like it should be fairly straightforward to get at least some results. Thanks for pointing this out. > bob Mick. -- "You are the music while the music lasts" - Antonio Damasio (after TS Eliot).
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