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Re: Mars salt ?

#352
From: The Ghost In The Machine
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:10
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In sci.physics, BradGuth
<bradguth@gmail.com>
 wrote
on 26 Apr 2007 09:57:18 -0700
<1177606638.042568.60010@s33g2000prh.googlegroups.com>:
> On Apr 24, 9:50 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
> <e...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
>> In sci.physics, bradg...@gmail.com
>> <bradg...@gmail.com>
>>  wrote
>> on 24 Apr 2007 12:38:35 -0700
>> <1177443515.293965.88...@n35g2000prd.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 23, 8:17 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
>> > <e...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
>> >>Of course the rovers have barely scratched the surface here. :-)
>>
>> > Scratched the surface, my ass.
>>
>> > We've spent more than a combined hundred plus billion, and still
>> > there's not enough common or even weird salt on Mars to behold.  How
>> > many extra billions is Mars worth, or should we say an extra trillion
>> > hard earned dollars/euros worth if we're actually thinking about
>> > walking on that little sucker?
>>
>> > So, either Mars existed within and/or arrived from a mostly freshwater
>> > solar system, or that we and/or that of our highly unusual moon came
>> > in from a salty one.  It's one or the other, not both or much less all
>> > of the above.
>> > -
>> > Brad Guth
>>
>> And an Easter Bunny is proven to be solid chocolate because
>> one can scrape off a shaving from the side of his ear.
>>
>> You'll have to do better than that.
>>
>> Ideally we'd set up some sort of drilling rigs at some point, and
>> bore holes at various points in the Martian or Venusian surface.  The
>> core samples would then be sent back to Earth for analysis, or perhaps
>> analyzed right there if there's sufficient equipment.  We might even
>> find some ice down there.
>>
>> One can also envision seismographic monitoring (there's already stuff
>> looking for moonquakes, courtesy of the non-existent moon missions).
>>
>> --
>> #191, ewi...@earthlink.net
>> Windows Vista.  Because it's time to refresh your hardware.  Trust us.
>>
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>
> Of at least two previous postings as being missing in action, I see
> that your GOOGLE/Usenet has been into stealth moderating/excluding of
> my stuff again.  Why is that?

Say what?

I respond when I choose to respond.  You use Google; I use TeraNews.
Obviously you've not yet mastered the intricacies of the
store/forward/publish/subscribe system that is UseNet.

>
> Why are the mostly Jewish folks of this infomercial spewing Usenet so
> afraid of their own shadows?

Why are you so afraid of those who profess the Jewish faith?
Are they that dangerous with their yarmulkes and three-piece suits?

(Disclaimer: I'm an atheist.)

>
> Why are the faith-based of such little faith, especially of your born-
> again LLPOF species?

An intelligent question!

>
> Why haven't you folks constructively contributed as to the topic at
> hand, such as with those hard scientific numbers?

More like napkin calculation parameters in my case.  I suppose I could
look up the Russian missions and calculate a more precise value for the
amount of propellant/energy required.  I'm not sure there's much point.

>
> Where's all of your all-knowing science and physics that fits into
> this mold of Mars w/o salt, and of Earth with way more than its fair
> share of salt (including that of our salty moon)?
>
> You're all dancing around in the nude, arnt you.

I'd like to know where you get the notion that:

[a] the Moon is salty, and
[b] Mars is not.

Especially since there are so many forms of salts, especially if one
goes into the organic realm.  One salt, for instance, is baking soda;
it's a combination of sodium and the acid/ketone (HO)2C=O, which is
close to formic acid (HCOOH) and oxalic acid (COOH)2, but isn't
either one.

> -
> Brad Guth
>


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