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Re: Mars salt ?

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From: BradGuth
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:03
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On Apr 24, 9:50 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
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> In sci.physics, bradg...@gmail.com
> <bradg...@gmail.com>
>  wrote
> on 24 Apr 2007 12:38:35 -0700
> <1177443515.293965.88...@n35g2000prd.googlegroups.com>:
>
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> > On Apr 23, 8:17 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
> > <e...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
> >>Of course the rovers have barely scratched the surface here. :-)
>
> > Scratched the surface, my ass.
>
> > We've spent more than a combined hundred plus billion, and still
> > there's not enough common or even weird salt on Mars to behold.  How
> > many extra billions is Mars worth, or should we say an extra trillion
> > hard earned dollars/euros worth if we're actually thinking about
> > walking on that little sucker?
>
> > So, either Mars existed within and/or arrived from a mostly freshwater
> > solar system, or that we and/or that of our highly unusual moon came
> > in from a salty one.  It's one or the other, not both or much less all
> > of the above.
> > -
> >BradGuth
>
> And an Easter Bunny is proven to be solid chocolate because
> one can scrape off a shaving from the side of his ear.
>
> You'll have to do better than that.

NO, as actually it's you silly folks that'll have to do better, a
whole lot better, especially since thus far your Mars has hardly its
fair share of salt (perhaps as little as 1% of whatever it should
have).

Why is salt limited as to Earth and that of our unusually massive,
nearby and sodium spewing moon?

>
> Ideally we'd set up some sort of drilling rigs at some point, and
> bore holes at various points in the Martian or Venusian surface.  The
> core samples would then be sent back to Earth for analysis, or perhaps
> analyzed right there if there's sufficient equipment.  We might even
> find some ice down there.

I agree, and for how many hundreds of billions and perhaps yet another
iffy decade is that worth, finding underground water-ice or perhaps
simply pockets of dry-ice or that of some weird gas, as though the
likes of Mars and that of our icy proto-moon came in from the cold of
an interstellar trek, or is it that perhaps we'd arrived from a very
wet and salty place, yet unknown.

>
> One can also envision seismographic monitoring (there's already stuff
> looking for moonquakes, courtesy of the non-existent moon missions).

On behalf of robotics hard-landing or that of impact deployed
technology has been doable, as is still the only viable option at our
disposal.
-
Brad Guth
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Subject: Re: Mars salt ?
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