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>>>>> "vincent" == vincent pribish <vpribish@aerogold.aero.nd.edu> writes:

vincent> paulward (paulward@torolab.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
vincent> : >>>>> "Ronald" == Ronald Paul Menich <rmenich@ix.netcom.com> writes:


vincent> : Ronald> Person A pays $5,000/yr in taxes.  Person B pays $20,000/yr in taxes.
vincent> : Ronald> That is, person B has contributed four times as much as person A.

vincent> : This is exceedingly unclear to me.  You see, person A is taking a
vincent> : lower paying job at his company so that person's C, D, and E might
vincent> : also be employed there, also paying $5,000 per year in taxes, and not
vincent> : consuming welfare and UI.  Thus person A is actually saving the
vincent> : government the cost of welfare and UI for these three other people.
vincent> : Hmm.  I think things are a lot more complex than simply how much tax
vincent> : one pays.
vincent> : -- 
vincent> : -- Paul (paulward@vnet.ibm.com)   | A barbarian that requires a justification
vincent> : DB2/PE Development.               | will use the nearest appealing one.  Blame
vincent> : Shouldn't there be a shorter word | the barbarian, not his justification for
vincent> : for the concept "monosyllabic".   | his acts.



vincent> WHAT!?!?!?

vincent> 1.  person A DOES NOT take a lower paying job so that other people 
vincent>     can work there too.  He takes the lower paying job because he
vincent>     can't get a higher paying one (usually)......geez

My, what a narrow view of reality we have.  The only reason people
work at a given job is because it maximizes their profits.  You should
read some Adam Smith.  Enlightened self-interest is not "maximize your
profit" but do what you choose to do within the constraint of
self-preservation.  

I guess your view is the one with the most toys wins.  In fact, the
one with the most toys dies as does the one with nothing.  Materialism
seems so shallow when put in that light.

vincent> 2.  companies dont try to go out and hire as many people as possible
vincent>     they hire as many people as they a) need  and b) can afford  
vincent>     unless they NEED persons C,D, and E tey wont hire them...etc

Economics 101.  Companies will hire to the point of zero marginal
return.  If A is worth $60000 but takes on $20000, they can hire B and
C and still have a marginal return on the additional hires.

vincent> In the system as it stands, the person who contributes least gets
vincent> more of the benefits of our government

Hmm, I guess all those capital gains exemptions really benefit those
poor capitalists.

vincent> the gov shurely isn't run like a business...

How do you fire a citizen?

vincent> vincent pribish

vincent> U.S.A. membership has it's priveleges...
vincent> membership fee $5000/year...discounts for students and seniors

vincent> .

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-- Paul (paulward@vnet.ibm.com)   | A barbarian that requires a justification
DB2/PE Development.               | will use the nearest appealing one.  Blame
Shouldn't there be a shorter word | the barbarian, not his justification for
for the concept "monosyllabic".   | his acts.