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On 7 Jul, 23:27, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 5:30 am, OsherD <mdocto...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
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> > FromOsherDoctorow
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> > Roswell was a "UFO farce", all right.  I think, though, that what
> > bothers Ian Parker is really that Pentcho Valev and I, independently
> > and with no connection, keep surviving on sci.physics as
> > Nonconformists, even though trolls and graffiti artists keep attacking
> > my posts, while mostly mainstream physicists dislike Pentcho's
> > disagreement with Einstein.
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> > As for Roswell, not only was it a UFO farce, perpetrated arguably by
> > Con Artists wanting to sell books and souvenirs and photographs, but
> > at some point the "USSR Evil Empire is Dead" obsessors made use of the
> > story to propagandize that Aliens had given the USA stealth and
> > similar information which enabled destroying the USSR and China and
> > their allies.  Well, now we know that the USSR basically downsized to
> > Russia, which has exactly the same policies as the USSR except that
> > it's smarter in de-emphasizing hard propaganda and in using the Free
> > market to destroy the West, while China never was in trouble from
> > stealth or any other Western technology.  In fact, Russia now has more
> > allies than before if we count Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Outer
> > Mongolia, Belarus, as well as nations that it keeps under Military and
> > Economic threat like Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzebekistan,
> > Kazakhstan, and partially Ukraine.   The USSR's downsizing also
> > succeeded in winning allies and friends for it in Africa, Latin
> > America, India, Islamist nations, etc., without having to supply so
> > much money to them since they were now supposedly "too small" (not so
> > much in area but population).
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> > I disagree with Pencho about Einstein's "deliberate" frauds or
> > criminality or intentionally deceiving anybody, and I think that parts
> > of GR and SR (Special Relativity) are good local approximations in our
> > part of the Universe, though not likely in very strong gravitational
> > conditions, the early Universe (quantum-related, etc.), the
> > microscopic level, or other Universes in the Multiverse, and also I'm
> > interested in Superluminal motion which I think is a different phase
> > rather than an impossibility, which (Superluminal motion) Joao
> > Magueijo and many others are interested in.
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> > OsherDoctorow
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> "Deliberate frauds", "criminality" etc. belong to style and are
> therefore inessential. In my view, the only essential thing in
> Einstein's relativity is Einstein's 1905 light postulate:
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> http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
> "...light is always propagated in empty space with a definite velocity
> c which is independent of the state of motion of the emitting body."
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> If the light postulate is true, then miraculous effects (time
> dilation, length contraction etc.) do exist and Einstein is at least
> one of the discoverers of the fantastic world we live in. However if
> the light postulate is false, that is, if the speed of light obeys
> Newton's model presenting light as discontinuous bullet-like particles
> and disobeys Maxwell's model presenting light as discontinuous field,
> then Einstein's 1954 confession resolves all remaining problems:
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> http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/files/975547d7-2d00-433a-b7e3-4a...
> Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
> be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
> Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
> theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
> physics."
>
Fields are far as we understand then occur with the interchange of
virtual particles. Quantum Electrodynamics is based on this principle
and the inverse square law is derived from the wavelength of virtual
photons. Nuclear (short range) forces involve the interchange of heavy
particles. Gravity has been looked upon in two ways. It is the
curvature of space. Attempts have been made to produce a quantum
theory of gravity which combines the two concepts.

All fields, all forces are invariant under the Lorentz Transformation.
By all means produce a field theory or a theory of force that is NOT
Lorentz invariant (or relativistic). You will have to tie it to some
absolute frame of reference, possibly Aldebaron.

Up to now the various conspiracy theories have been treated
separately. I feel this is a mistake. I think all this is linked
together. In the case of "the moon landing hoax" and "controlled
demolition of the twin towers" conspiracies like that the aim is.

1) To infiltrate and then discredit liberal groups. Groups that have
got some valid arguments tucked away.

2) To create an atmosphere of mud where investigation of their own
misdeeds is suppressed.

Relativity is a little bit different. You see if the theory of
Relativity is true it follows that Roswell, Area 51 and the myth of
little green men were all giant hoaxes. You can tie Roswell to a more
recent debacle by saying no Physics, no Arabic. The CIA is the Central
Idiocy Agency that never consults anyone who remotely knows what they
are doing. If Relativity is manifestly and unambiguously true this is
the only possible conclusion.

"I know this, you know this". All the "conspiracy" theories whether on
the Moon landings, the twin towers or Relativity all involve points
that are readily falsifiable. Let us take the stars on the Moon as an
example. OK the Moon has no air and you can see the stars at all
times. No, there is the question of dynamic range. To see stars during
a lunar "day" you need a telescope with good baffles. The photographic
equipment the astronauts took with them could not see stars, neither
could the astronauts themselves. Let me put this another way. You have
a starlit night here on Earth. Can you see stars from a brightly lit
room, even with an open door? Of course you can't. A baffled camera
might. - I know this, you know this.

Ludendorff had a sealed train for Lenin. Reagan had a similar
arrangement for OBL. The 9/11 CT draw us away from the fact that
Ludendorff and Reagan both helped obnoxious régimes into power for
essentially short term reasons. In both cases these obnoxious régimes
turned on their erstwhile supporters. This is the reason why the Twin
Towers "is a controlled demolition".

Je vois que vous avez adjoutFields are far as we understand then occur
with the interchange of virtual particles. Quantum Electrodynamics is
based on this principle and the inverse square law is derived from the
wavelength of virtual photons. Nuclear (short range) forces involve
the interchange of heavy particles. Gravity has been looked upon in
two ways. It is the curvature of space. Attempts have been made to
produce a quantum theory of gravity which combines the two concepts.

All fields, all forces are invariant under the Lorentz Transformation.
By all means produce a field theory or a theory of force that is NOT
Lorentz invariant (or relativistic). You will have to tie it to some
absolute frame of reference, possibly Aldebaron.

Up to now the various conspiracy theories have been treated
separately. I feel this is a mistake. I think all this is linked
together. In the case of "the moon landing hoax" and "controlled
demolition of the twin towers" conspiracies like that the aim is.

1) To infiltrate and then discredit liberal groups. Groups that have
got some valid arguments tucked away.

2) To create an atmosphere of mud where investigation of their own
misdeeds is suppressed.

Relativity is a little bit different. You see if the theory of
Relativity is true it follows that Roswell, Area 51 and the myth of
little green men were all giant hoaxes. You can tie Roswell to a more
recent debacle by saying no Physics, no Arabic. The CIA is the Central
Idiocy Agency that never consults anyone who remotely knows what they
are doing. If Relativity is manifestly and unambiguously true this is
the only possible conclusion.

"I know this, you know this". All the "conspiracy" theories whether on
the Moon landings, the twin towers or Relativity all involve points
that are readily falsifiable. Let us take the stars on the Moon as an
example. OK the Moon has no air and you can see the stars at all
times. No, there is the question of dynamic range. To see stars during
a lunar "day" you need a telescope with good baffles. The photographic
equipment the astronauts took with them could not see stars, neither
could the astronauts themselves. Let me put this another way. You have
a starlit night here on Earth. Can you see stars from a brightly lit
room, even with an open door? Of course you can't. A baffled camera
might. - I know this, you know this.

Ludendorff had a sealed train for Lenin. Reagan had a similar
arrangement for OBL. The 9/11 CT draw us away from the fact that
Ludendorff and Reagan both helped obnoxious régimes into power for
essentially short term reasons. In both cases these obnoxious régimes
turned on their erstwhile supporters. This is the reason why the Twin
Towers "is a controlled demolition".

Je vois que vous avez ajouté fr.sci.physique. Je souviens que vouus
avez ecrit un message critique du 2ieme loi de thermodynamique. Je
sens que je vous donne un avis. Je suis fort interesse en Intelligence
Artificielle. Je crois que compression, qui est en effect entropie
maximale est la seul mesure de l'intelligence. En epreuves IQ
raissonament verbale c'est possible de voir

fleurs - ressorte, printemps, source

Tous les mots sone "spring" en anglais. On peut voir donc traduction
comme compression. Je suis interesse en 2ieme loi.


  - Ian Parker