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Article #165Re: re HRMS for ETI
From: Alan McGowen
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 01:57
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 01:57
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Some speculations (what else is this thread, anyway?):
P(life | suitable planet)
~ 1 (Check out recent evidence for multiple origins
of coding. The person who said the "organic
soup" theory was dead because of improbability
should learn about the theory, due to Manfred
Eigen, of the origin of coding by heterocyclic
catalysis. Generating the negentropy is not
a severe theoretical problem, and if coding
actually had multiple origins it must have
been a cakewalk for nature, however badly
we might explain it.)
P(multicellular life | life)
~ 0.5 (Within the lifespan of a biosphere.
It might be lower. The estimate is based
on nothing more than the fact that
multicellularity appeared roughly midway
through the main sequence lifespan of the
sun.)
P(smart life | multicellular life)
~ 0.01 (Smart life means e.g. birds and mammals.
Check out Bonner's book _The Evolution
of Complexity_, which might put this at ~1.
That may be a major overestimate, however:
there may be just one fundamental adaptation
-- vertebrate sociality -- which drives the
entire phyletic trend towards increasing
"smartness" (encephalization). If that basic
adaptation itself has a very low prior
probability, this one is an overestimate. No
similar phyletic trend apparently occurs
outside the vertebrates.
The justification for the number is that it
is roughly the inverse of the number of
animal phyla, only one of which exhibits
encephalization.)
P(symbolic intelligence | smart life)
"1 e-12" (Specifically human intelligence is no more
(really just some very small likely than is the specific adaptation
number) pattern of any other species. The fact that it
may open a new adaptive zone *if reached*
is not relevant to its conditional
probability, which has to do with how easy it
is to arrive at an adaptation (preadaptation),
not with how good it is to have it once it
has been arrived at (fitness). By contrast
to symbolic intelligence consider, e.g. eyes,
which have evolved independently many different
times. So has flight.
There is also the Saganistic possibility
that symbolic intelligence does *not* prove
to be adaptive for very long: the evidence
of its mounting effect on the biosphere
makes this a more than abstruse possibility.)
It interests me that many physical scientists seem to think either that
Sagan: P(life) ~ 1 & P(radio telescopes | life) ~ 1 --> many civilizations
or that
Tipler: P(life) ~ 0 & P(radio telescopes | life) ~ 1 --> sparse civilizations
while virtually all evolutionary biologists seem to think that
Simpson: P(life) ~ 1 & P(radio telescopes | life) ~ 0 --> sparse civilizations.
See Stephan Gould's essay about this in _Bully for Bronotosaurus_, and also
see his book _Wonderful Life_ (which I understand has not been a favorite
of the Seti crowd). [Some of the strange Cambrian critters Gould discusses
in that book have recently been held to be fossilization artifacts
-- hodgepodges of bits of other organisms -- or to be assignable to known
groups after all.]
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