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>>   No  they  don't  .  Abell's lunar gravity figure of 1/6 assumes the earth
>>   and moon rotate around a common barycenter. The neutral point  figure  is
>>   a direct derivation of that result.
>>
>>   My  calculations  assume the neutral point to be motionless with respect
>>   to the earth and moon . What do your calculations assume?
>>
>> snarfy
>>

   In   message-ID:  <3NOV199209041648@judy.uh.edu>  Dennis,  University  of
      Alabama in Huntsville comments :

  >A very easy way to blow this one up is to  look  at  the  weight  of  the
  >Apollo  LM  and  the  thrust of the engine. The rocket equation says that
  >there must be at least a 1.141 thrust to weight ratio.  Remember  the  LM
  >only  had  one Ascent stage.

   Dennis ,recall my earlier comment :

>>  The issue is not necessarily whether we landed on the moon , but  how  we
>>  did it.

   I'm not trying to suggest that we didn't land on (and  return  from)  the
   moon. What I doubt is that we could have done it all with rockets.

 >  Also  remember  that the Astronauts suits and baggage were set up for 1/6
 >  g and not .6 gee.

   So  we  made  them extra heavy so the astronauts couldn't jump too high ,
   or wander off too far, right ? (see my most recent post.)

 > Henry can probably provide the numbers.

   Who's Henry?

  > If any of you out there know Buzz Aldrin, there is no way he  would  keep
  > something like this covered up.

   Probably not , sorry , gee, I guess you're right . Do you think there's a
   chance I might get to talk with your good buddy Buzz? Over the ol' modem?
   Us investigative types just like to get told off by those in  a  position
   to know , y'know ?

  >So there snarfy.

   Yeah , don't rub it in O.K.?  I'm very sensitive.

   Now  that  you  mention Buzz Aldrin, didn't I read somewhere that he went
   through severe depression and "therapy" after  his  one  moon  excursion?
   What  was  this all about?  Was he confused or upset about anything after
   this experience?

  >Also the pertubations of  Lunar  orbits  by  the  Earth  and  Sun  become
  >significant  at altitudes above 800 km and dominate above 22,000.

   Where did you read this ?  Was this a paper based on theory or the actual
   flight trajectories of real spacecraft ? If it's true , I'll be the first
   to admit that it shoots my theory ...but I'd like to see for myself.

   snarfy