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Article #6552Re: Comparative $/lb to LEO (Was: Stupid Shuttle Cost Arguments)
From: John S. Neff
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:37
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:37
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In article <n1351t@ofa123.fidonet.org> Wales.Larrison@ofa123.fidonet.org writes: >From: Wales.Larrison@ofa123.fidonet.org >Subject: Re: Comparative $/lb to LEO (Was: Stupid Shuttle Cost Arguments) >Date: 28 Dec 92 15:44:58 >David Anderman writes: >>The Space Shuttle is simply the highest cost (per pound) launch >>vehicle ever operated. > > ** Sigh ** This seems to have become a net legend -- >unfortunately it does not seem to be supported by fact. I've seen >this statement made numerous times over the past year or so in >sci.space, but based upon a little bit of research, it seems to be >wrong. > To repeat what I posted about a month ago.... > > David could you provide some data to support this statement? >For example, Pegasus costs about $14.5 M to put about 950 lbs in 150 >nmi circular 28.5 deg LEO orbit (Cost from the price for the SCD-1 >launch, planned for 1st quarter 1993, performance from the Pegasus >Users Manual). That's about $15,000/lb. > In comparison, Shuttle costs (depending on your source) about >$350-500 M per launch. (As a check on this cost/flight range, the FY >1992 NASA budget numbers for shuttle operating costs came to about $ >3.2 B, and there were a total of 8 flights flown in 1992, which >gives about $ 400 M/flt, which is within the cost band I'm using). >For a 50,000 lb shuttle payload delivered to 150 nmi 28.5 deg >circular orbit, that's about $7000 -10,000 /lb. (Note: shuttle >fleet average performance to 150 nmi, 28.5 deg circ orbit is >actually about 56,000 lbs -- so, again I'm being conservative about >shuttle cost $/lb) > Titan IV, capable of putting about 32,000 lbs to the same orbit >(note the T-IV performance is corrected to put payloads into 150 nmi >28.5 deg circular orbits) is currently running about $360 M per unit >(Cost data from the Oct 92 DoD Selected Acquisition Reports), which >yields about $11,200 /lb. > From these data points, I think the statement "the most expensive >per pound in orbit of all current launch vehicles" is incorrect. > > If you have better data, I would greatly appreciate it if you >could post it. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Wales Larrison Space Technology Investor > > >--- Maximus 2.01wb It is common for the shuttle to fly without a full cargo. In your calculation you assumed that the payload was the maximum for the orbit. You figures are the lower limit to the cost per pound for the shuttle.
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Newsgroups: sci.space Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!pluto.physics.uiowa.edu!neff From: neff@iaiowa.physics.uiowa.edu (John S. Neff) Subject: Re: Comparative $/lb to LEO (Was: Stupid Shuttle Cost Arguments) Message-ID: <neff.12.725643434@iaiowa.physics.uiowa.edu> Sender: news@space.physics.uiowa.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: pluto.physics.uiowa.edu Organization: The University of Iowa References: <n1351t@ofa123.fidonet.org> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:37:14 GMT Lines: 49