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Article #6862What was NASA Thinking About?
From: Thomas Clarke
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 13:47
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 13:47
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Wanting to refresh my somewhat rusty remembrance of things rocket,
I picked up "Rocket Propulsion Elements" by George Sutton
(1986, 5th ed, John Wiley and sons).
Therein I found the following interesting numbers:
Space Shuttle Main Engine Saturn J-2 Upper Stage
Thrust (at alt): 470,000 lbs 230,000 lbs
Specific Imp (alt) 455 sec 426 sec
Dry Weight: 6335 lbs 3454 lbs
Thrust/Weight: 74 67
Mixture Ratio: 6 5.5
Now, I have been led to believe that the SSME is a large
advance over previous engines. The above seems to imply
that with a little work the 6 J-2s could have powered
the shuttle quite nicely. Perhaps a 6:1 mixture would have
given it the same Isp as SSME - the J-2 thrust and thrust/weight
would have then been 246,000 lbs and 71.5.
Also:
Space Shuttle SRB Saturn F-1 First Stage
Thrust(at alt): 2,372,000 1,748,000
Specific Imp: 266 (average) 265 (grnd) - 305 (alt)
Now, the F-1 does not replace an SRB one for one, but its
no too far off. Given its good record maybe the F-1 could
have been rerated to 135% throttle to equal the SRB.
Hence the question in the title of my post: What was NASA
thinking about? Apparently the Saturn engines could have
been used to build the shuttle vehicle. Why weren't they?
A shuttle with 5 or 6 J-2s using 2 uprated F-1s in the recoverable
boosters would have taken advantage of a history of literally
dozens of successful flight firings. Plus there would
have been a much wider range of abort modes.
Happy new year. Let's hope for more rational future design.
[P.S. I tried posting this from home with a modem last week,
I didn't see it show up, so forrive me if its a duplicate]
--
Thomas Clarke
Institute for Simulation and Training, University of Central FL
12424 Research Parkway, Suite 300, Orlando, FL 32826
(407)658-5030, FAX: (407)658-5059, clarke@acme.ucf.edu
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