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Article #6937Re: Latest Pegasus news?
From: Gary Coffman
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 17:47
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 17:47
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In article <1992Dec31.182405.7430@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes: >In <1992Dec31.004513.12224@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes: > >>You misrepresent my position. All I'm saying is that new systems are >>rarely as cheap and easy in metal as they are on paper. > >Gary, I refer you to my recent posting where I compared DC costs to >Shuttle costs. I encoumbered DC with development costs but not Shuttle. >I doubled DC's DDT&E, production and operations costs. It still came up >a winner. > >Nobody is saying it will be a piece of cake. Are you saying that a factor >of two isn't enough to cover the risk? If not, then what's your point? Yeah, I'm saying a factor of two isn't enough to cover the likely stretchout in the development timeline as problems appear. I said in the other post that realistic numbers based on other new spacecraft development programs would be a tripling of MacDD's projected base costs and a tripling of their projected development timeline. That would still be cheaper than the monsterous delays and costs of Shuttle development. I think *everyone* agrees that the Shuttle development program was about as badly managed as is possible while still getting a working system in the end. Even if that system is mostly bandaids on top of bandaids that have to be torn down and inspected after every flight. At least it flys. I think comparisons to new airliner construction, such as the references to the progression of the 7xx series, is bogus because SSTO is attempting something no other craft has ever done, with an engineering tean that has no experience with similar reusable spacecraft to draw on. I don't expect them to make major mistakes, like mounting the engines upside down, as happened in a California nuclear power plant, but I do expect them to be bitten by numerous smaller gotchas as the program progresses. Each of those will cause schedule slips and additional development time. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | emory!ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!rpi!gatech!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: Latest Pegasus news? Message-ID: <1993Jan4.174720.11639@ke4zv.uucp> Date: 4 Jan 93 17:47:20 GMT References: <1992Dec27.203327.21241@iti.org> <1992Dec31.004513.12224@ke4zv.uucp> <ewright.725820266@convex.convex.com> <1992Dec31.182405.7430@iti.org> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems Lines: 39