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In <C1GtzB.EL7.1@cs.cmu.edu> flb@flb.optiplan.fi writes:

> >    A flyby mission would require a total delta-V of the same magnitude as the
> > mission outlined above, or about 5km/s for the Proton stage.
> 
> Sorry to be dense, but in this context does "flyby" mean not 
> even properly *orbiting* Mars, perhaps to take a pick-axe to 
> Phobos and Deimos, but rather merely sailing on by ?

Exactly. An orbital mission would require an additional 220 ton rocket stage
(=one more launch by Mir) and would prolong the mission by up to two years.
 
> > > However, if the Finn government were to provide sufficient funding, I'm sure a 
> > > human flight to Mars could be arranged.
> 
> This will happen only is it can be repackaged as a support plan 
> for the farmers.  Perhaps with enough hydroponics on board ..
> 
Yup. Our farmers get 71% of their income from the state - not from selling farm
products.

MARCU$

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