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Re: Clinton's Promises (space) in Charlotte Observer

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From: nsmca
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:58
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In article <1k6beeINNgtf@mojo.eng.umd.edu>, sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney) writes:
> In article <1993Jan27.021023.8557@pages.com>, bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) writes:
>>. I have friends who are still heavily involved in  
>>the space industry at various levels. I happen to think that the best thing  
>>Clinton could do would be to kill SS Fred and offer $10B, tax-free, to the  
>>first US corporation or consortium to put a station on orbit and keep it  
>>staffed by at least X people for a year and day. He should also offer $5B to  
>>the second corporation/consortium to do the same thing. The government would  
>>spend less, create more jobs, and built an 21st century industrial base.  
> 
> Gosh, you been hanging out with Jerry Pournelle, huh? 
> 
> He has expounded on the bonus plan to build a moon colony through the same
> fashion. 
> 
> I got some questions for you:
> 
> 	A) Who owns possession of the technology used to develop the station?
Good solution/answer given below! But its debatable.

> 	B) Who owns the data? 
Same solution to a point.
> 	C) How do you set the damned thing up without using goverment help
> 	   in the first place? Guess who owns all the big launch facilities.
> 	   (Unless, of course, you wish to disguise this as a Russian 
> 	    Marshall Plan, which is not necessary a Bad Thing. Just be say
> 	    so up front).
Hum, I think there is some space facilties that are not directly federally
owned and we shall see. I do like the idea of a marshal plan type idea, after
all it can make us the benefiters, have the russians do all the work and we
benefit. Also make the russian ean their money and they will be paying it back
in many ways better than a long term loan (which many counteries never seem to
pay off).. (see Poker flats in Alaska for semi-Nasa facilty.
> 	D) Does it have to be a U.S. corp? What if I use off-shore tech, say
> 	   get the Italians into building my living modules?
Off the shelf would be nice, forgein that is a problem that will be worked
out.. Maybe if the holding company is US, many subcontrators are not US even in
normal projects. Ever heard of Alyeska, its a front/combo company to handle the
Alaska Pipeline and build it.. Co-owned by Arco, BP, Standard, and one or two
others, BP is not a US company.. I think Shell was the other one (Dutch).
> 
> IF, in exchange for the prize money, the government gets rights to the
> "science" without infringing on trade secrets, it might work. 
> 
> 

>                     I have talked to Ehud, and lived.
>   -- >                  SYSMGR@CADLAB.ENG.UMD.EDU                        < --

Jerry Pournelle, hum.. Does anyone have access to a ear at the Planetary
Society? Pass these ideas on to them...
Does Jerry Pournell have anet address (drop box is better)??
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Subject: Re: Clinton's Promises (space) in Charlotte Observer
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