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Article #7293Re: Fabrication (was fast track failures)
From: Gary Coffman
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 06:05
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 06:05
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In article <ewright.726276409@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes: >In <1993Jan5.212935.21012@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes: > >>Having design engineers apprentice on >>the shop floor for a few years *before* they get to design a product >>would do a world of good for our manufacturing sector. It certainly >>has for the Japanese and old school Germans. > >You mean like that horrid know-nothing, Wernher von Braun? ;-) I have absolutely no idea where you get such absurd ideas. Von Braun is the perfect example of a wartime technologist. He took enormous risks and spent cubic money to bring a critical system in on schedule. That's admirable in wartime, but not in the commercial arena. You'll notice that after Saturn achieved it's Cold War objective of oneupmanship against the USSR, it was promptly dropped because no other missions could justify it's expense and there was never a hope of recouping it's development costs. Shuttle was the "low cost" system that was touted to replace expensive expendibles like Saturn. When Shuttle proved not to be so low cost after all, it was too late to go back to the already dead Saturn, and Congress refused to fund development of a launcher to replace Shuttle. So now we have a capable, but expensive, launcher in operation. We should never again make the mistake of killing our only operational system in favor of a paper spacecraft that hasn't established a solid track record of meeting it's performance and cost goals. Thus I champion continuing to fly Shuttle until there are proven systems on line to replace it. Neither the paper DC-1 nor the proposed Soyuz on Titan have that track record yet. They may never have that track record and some completely different system may be needed to replace the capabilities of Shuttle. Meanwhile Shuttle continues to maintain a presence in space for the USA that does worthwhile missions. Unlike Allen, I am completely convinced that killing Shuttle now will not cause any money to be reprogrammed to his pet schemes. The only results of killing Shuttle would be 7,000 Florida aerospace workers on the unemployment line, workers in Houston, California, Nevada, Mississippi, Alabama, and other places on the unemployment line, all hope of recouping Shuttle development and infrastructure costs gone forever, a long hiatus in US manned spaceflight if not it's permanent termination, and more money for the VA and Clinton's national health care program. I find that scenario personally unacceptable. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | emory!ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu
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Newsgroups: sci.space Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Fabrication (was fast track failures) Message-ID: <1993Jan7.060559.805@ke4zv.uucp> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <1993Jan4.171213.11272@ke4zv.uucp> <1993Jan4.202421.11388@cs.ucf.edu> <1993Jan5.212935.21012@ke4zv.uucp> <ewright.726276409@convex.convex.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:05:59 GMT Lines: 50