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Re: DC-1 and the $23M NASA Toilet

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From: Allen W. Sherzer
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 11:30
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In article <1ige15INN30a@cbl.umd.edu> mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes:
>Well, it occured to me after being subjected to a little CNN Headline News
>peice this evening regarding the new $23 MILLION DOLLAR toilet that will
>be flying aboard the shuttle Endeavour (GAO is somewhat concerned about
>this btw) 

The GAO report concluded that the 'extended duration toilet' costs about
ten times more than it needed to because of NASA procurement practices.
Other examples of this abound; the Wake Shield Facility would cost
NASA $93 million to build (according to NASA's cost model) yet a private
company is building the exact same thing for $11M.

>that no mention has been made regarding this sort of thing
>with respect to the proposed manned, operational Delta Clipper program...
>and what comes as a result of eating).  A great deal of time, effort, and money
>has been spent on STS to accomodate humans living in space during
>week long missions in this regard.

I don't know exactly what the DC1 will do. However, I point out that
the cost will not be as great. SDIO is buying DC in a very un-NASA like
manner. There are only two government people overseeing activities (I
have worked on smaller government programs which had more government
people on it than contractor people doing the work.

That is why the program is coming in at such a low cost. that is also why
SSTO supporters worked so hard to find a new home which would execute
the contract in a streamlined manner.

   Allen
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From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
Subject: Re: DC-1 and the $23M NASA Toilet
Message-ID: <1993Jan7.113005.6724@iti.org>
Keywords: DC,toilet,high-cost,long duration orbital logistics for astronauts
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:30:05 GMT
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