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Article #7424Re: Shuttle a research tool (was: Re: Let's be more specific)
From: Gary Coffman
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 18:30
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 18:30
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In article <C0Hun4.13t@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >In article <1993Jan7.033118.1652@cerberus.ulaval.ca> yergeau@phy.ulaval.ca (Francois Yergeau) writes: >>But the airlines do not contract out their operations. They procure >>planes, and fly them, just like NASA buys shuttles and operates them. > >Actually, it is not at all uncommon for airlines to lease planes complete >with crews, or to contract with specialists for support services like >maintenance. Leasing services are among the airliner companies' biggest >customers. Let's see, NASA should sell Shuttle and it's support facilities at cost, lease them back from the buyer at a profit to the leasing agency, and then they'll save big bucks. What's wrong with this picture? Airlines use lease back arrangements because of the *tax* advantages the arrangement offers. The leasing company profit is less than the taxes saved so everybody but the average taxpayer wins. NASA doesn't pay taxes, they spend them. Ok, let's try it another way. NASA sells Shuttle and it's support facilities at cost to Rockwell. NASA then buys a *ticket* when it needs a launch on Rockwell Spacelines, about 8 times a year. Rockwell Spacelines sells them the tickets at about 1.5 times current Shuttle flight costs, got to recoup the investment and turn a profit. The poor taxpayer takes it in the neck. One more time. NASA sells Shuttle and support facilities at scrap prices and writes off development costs as a bad investment. This is what Allen wants. Rockwell Spacelines buys the scrap and begins operating it. Sells NASA, NASDA, Hughes, and anyone else who wants one a ticket. Using commercial operating practices, Rockwell Spacelines makes money, NASA et al get reduced launch costs, and everyone but the poor abused taxpayer wins. (he always loses anyway) Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | emory!ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu
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Newsgroups: sci.space Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gatech!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Shuttle a research tool (was: Re: Let's be more specific) Message-ID: <1993Jan8.183031.12692@ke4zv.uucp> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <ewright.726254273@convex.convex.com> <1993Jan5.211253.20530@cerberus.ulaval.ca> <ewright.726345157@convex.convex.com> <1993Jan7.033118.1652@cerberus.ulaval.ca> <C0Hun4.13t@zoo.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:30:31 GMT Lines: 38