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Re: `Days' in space

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From: Mike Smith
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1989 00:39
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In article <Added.4XlHiiy00Ui38HQE8q@andrew.cmu.edu> GILL@QUCDNAST.BITNET writes
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>     A few weeks ago, there was a report on the boob-tube about a lady
>in France who had spent about 60 days inside a cave (mineshaft?),
>completely isolated with no timepieces.  She was startled when they
>brought her out and said her time was up, as it seemed that she had
>often spent 40 - 60 hours awake at a stretch without noticing.
>
This is likely to be due to her own quirky construction.  I find this
claim (40-60 hour days) a bit hard to swallow.  Are you sure it is 
correctly quoted?

>     The question then becomes, how ingrained are our sleep patterns to
>our environment?  How does this effect manifest itself in long-term
>orbits (like in Mir)?  Does the proximity of timepieces and the day-cycle
>of the earthbound communications force the astronauts to keep the
>`normal' day cycle?  What is the effect of having two or more people
>setting up their own `day' cycles?

Our sleep patterns are pretty strongly engrained.  There have been
several other studies that have resulted in the conclusion that most
folks have a 'natural day' of about 22-27 hours.  More people tend to
be a bit on the long side than on the short, but some are in each camp.
Changes of a few hours are OK, but much beyond that is chaotic.  I would
surmise that since most folks will be close to a 24 hour day anyway, it
would be simplest to just keep them in sync at 24.  When 2 or more folks
are allowed to 'free run' and set up their own days, one of them becomes
the biological leader and the others drift into sync with them.  This 
person may not be the social leader.

[Mars speculation deleted ...]

>     If nothing else, more experiments could be done on isolation
>experiments similar to the French one (i.e. no contact, no *clocks*),
>especially the effect of having two people involved (against setting up
>your own rhythms).  Just a thought - go to it, thought-busters!

It has already been done.  I know from first hand experience.  I was one
of the subjects in a study of social isolation and circadian rythyms
done at UCDavis in about 1972.  When SkyLab was going for 85 days in 
space, we were going for 105 days on the ground.  They played all kinds
of games with our timing (including several weeks at a time of 'free
running') and switching 'noon' to happen at our biological 'midnight';
talk about jet lag!  We had no idea what day, date, or time is was.

Several interesting conclusions were derived.  (I'll be brief and only
list a couple...).  One was that the social leader did not corelate with
the biological leader (positive or negative corelation).  Another was 
that the scale of 'augementer/reducer' did corelate.  (This means, to
grossely simplify, that night people like to be left alone in the dark 
while morning people like stimulation and crowds and bright lights...)
One guy in our group had a natural day of about 23 hours.  Mine was 
about 25.5 hours.  We 'settled' on 25 hours (i.e. I was the biologic
leader and moved his pattern more than he moved mine.)  The third guy
was a 24is hour type and didn't have much influence on the drift rate.

No group had anyone much beyond a 26 hour day during 'free run'
intervals.  My experience would lead me to suspect anyone who claimed
that a 40-60 hour day was not noticed by the participant(s).  I 
would look closely at the issue of 'naps', also.

If anyone wants me to add more on this, let me know; otherwise I'll
assume that this posting was already too long!
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Subject: Re: `Days' in space
Summary: It's been done in the USA already...
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Date: 7 Feb 89 00:39:25 GMT
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