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Article #9257Re: Death of the 'Hermes' spaceplane imminent?
From: Henry Spencer
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1992 17:29
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1992 17:29
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In article <1992Feb5.224039.16747@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes: >... Ariane V is not as >dependant on Hermes as has been sugested. It is the planned launch vehicle >for the European polar orbiting platform and for the free flying Columbus >module ... ESA has >been developing various payload adapters and fairings... However, even ESA members have been known to express doubts about Ariane 5 being larger than optimal for the commercial market. While it has other customers, Hermes is the payload that determines its size, and it has been enlarged several times as Hermes has gained weight. A more modest step up from Ariane 4 would make more sense as a commercial launcher. >I can't see it being stopped. There has been too much of an investment in >manned spaceflight by Europe, and I can't see them throwing away their only >chance at autonomy for the next two decades. It's possible Hermes will be >downsized, but I don't see the point of designing a whole new, smaller vehicle. >What would you build that would be cheaper than Hermes? A Gemini capsule? A semi-ballistic capsule would be a lot smaller, simpler, and cheaper than Hermes, for nearly the same capabilities. Several such designs have been proposed over the last few years, notably a very well-thought-out proposal from British Aerospace that was written up in JBIS. The Hermes advocates have made the same mistake NASA made twenty years ago: trying to build one vehicle for two very different goals, an economical and reliable operational vehicle that also greatly advances technology. If they had built a capsule for operational spaceflight and an experimental mini-Hermes for advancing spaceplane technology, both could have been flying by now. -- SVR4: proving that quantity is | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology not a substitute for quality. | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11578d,b054708db0c655d7 X-Google-Attributes: gid11578d,public X-Google-Thread: 113822,b054708db0c655d7 X-Google-Attributes: gid113822,public X-Google-Thread: f5cc0,b054708db0c655d7 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5cc0,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-02-06 17:42:17 PST Newsgroups: sci.space,de.soc.politik,eunet.politics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utzoo!henry From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Death of the 'Hermes' spaceplane imminent? Message-ID: <1992Feb6.172945.25251@zoo.toronto.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1992 17:29:45 GMT References: <1992Feb3.135440.21949@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> <1992Feb5.120446.26324@techbook.com> <1992Feb5.224039.16747@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology