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Article #9Re: Dropping standards
From: BMJ
Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 04:32
Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 04:32
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clemenr@wmin.ac.uk wrote: <snip> >>I emphasized to my students that by doing so and continuing it in >>industry, they would be doing a favour to whoever is going to be > > looking > >>at their calculations, even if it's them a few years later. Also, >>saying "I punched the numbers into my calculator" likely won't be > > seen > >>as a proper reason in a disciplinary hearing. All of my preaching > > went > >>in one ear and out the other, without encountering anything in > > between. > > "Show ALL of your working" is an extremely common phrase in all of my > examss. Here our exam period starts in two weeks and just in case any > of my my students are reading this I'll repeat: "SHOW *ALL* OF YOUR > WORKING" IS AN EXTREMELY COMMON PHRASE IN ALL OF MY EXAMS. IF PEOPLE > WANT TO DO WELL IN MY EXAMS THEN THEY ARE STRONGLY ADVISED TO DO A LOT > OF WORKED EXAMPLES DURING THEIR REVISION!!!!! EVEN IF YOU UNDERSTAND > THE MATERIAL, YOU'LL STILL GET FASTER AND MORE ACCURATE AT WORKED > EXAMPLES IF YOU PRACTICE!!! > > Here in the UK we moan about students a lot. However, the example you > give of a student throwing a tantrum because she was asked to show the > working would be unthinkable. At least in my experience. And if it did > happen, I would simply advise her that there is a standard procedure > for appeals should she not be satisfied with how I marked the exam. And > I would have considerable confidence in the conclusion the appeals > panel would be likely to come to. I complained to the student's program head right afterwards and he resorted to lawyerism: i. e., did I put it in writing, etc., etc. Mind you, I announced it enough times to my students, so if anybody ever disputed it, I would have had witnesses. However, considering how the students could do no wrong, it probably wouldn't have done me any good. I quit that job three years ago, so it's not my problem any more. > > Cheers, > > Ross-c >
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