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Article #16Re: EVENT: Join "Make Poverty History" riders to Edinburgh, Fri 1
From: JLB
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:32
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:32
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Ian Johnston wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:40:13 UTC, JLB <JLB@bigbad.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > >>Ian Johnston wrote: > > >>>You really, trully believe that having representatives elected in a >>>secret ballot by universal suffrage is "a fancy name for mob rule"? >>>Sounds like a pretty bizarre attempt to justify mob rule to me. >> >>Perhaps you are unaware of the origin of the word democracy or the >>general contempt it was held in for most of the history of western >>civilisation? >> >>The modern fad of (not quite) universal suffrage and elected >>representatives is a peculiar mutation of what would have been >>understood by democracy throughout most of the past 2500 years. > > > Semantic quibbling. Do you or do you not think elected governments > preferable to mob rule? My opinion on that question has no bearing at all on the issue of whether the features (secret ballots, representatives etc) earlier alluded to are necessary & defining for democracy. They are clearly not. -- Joe * If I cannot be free I'll be cheap
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