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Article #57Re: Edinburgh Waverley station improvements
From: Ross
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:44
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:44
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On 7 Apr 2006 04:45:28 -0700, angus_creech@hotmail.com wrote in <1144410328.642461.71090@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, seen in uk.railway: > > The Big 4 had been closing branch lines during the 1930s (and earlier) > > as road competition bit. WWII obviously meant other things took > > preference, but I think we can reasonably assume that post-war the > > closures would have recommenced as more and more people got cars, more > > and more freight went onto the roads and the service levels offered by > > the railway became less and less attractive to users. > > I won't deny either that nearly all your points are valid, nor that > many lines were kept open that were uneconomic, but clearly the Labour > government at the time had an agenda -- one that did not include > railways. Further to that, Beeching's criteria for closing > lines/keeping them open were crude at best: You seem to assume that railway closures happened only in the 1960s, and only as a result of the Beeching Report. They didn't. Railways were being closed into the 1970s by governments of both colours, blue and red. [...] > Secondly, while road strategy may have been important, I did not mention road *strategy*. Read what I said, rather than what you want to believe I said. [...] > While the British railway system was indeed a hulking, overweight > behemoth, it's my belief that were it not nationalised it would've > simply shed a few pounds, rather than going for drastic surgery. If you research the behaviour of the Big 4 in rural England during the 1930s, I think you'll eventually come to the conclusion that drastic surgery is precisely what would have resulted. The difference is that instead of happening in a couple of decades, it would have been spread over a longer time. YMobviouslyV, of course. -- Ross, in Lincoln, most likely being cynical or sarcastic, as ever. Reply-to will bounce. Replace the junk-trap with my name to e-mail me. Demonstration of poor photography: <http://www.rosspix.me.uk> - updated with Czech photos AD: <http://www.merciacharters.co.uk> for European charters occasionally gripped by me
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X-Google-Thread: 105844,faafb5bc0d8bd17a X-Google-Thread: 109765,faafb5bc0d8bd17a X-Google-Thread: f86e1,faafb5bc0d8bd17a X-Google-Thread: f73ba,faafb5bc0d8bd17a X-Google-Attributes: gid105844,gid109765,gidf86e1,gidf73ba,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Ross <junk.trap@ross-mail.me.uk> Newsgroups: scot.general,ed.general,free.uk.scotland.transport-railways,uk.railway Subject: Re: Edinburgh Waverley station improvements Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:44:11 +0100 Organization: RossRants UK Lines: 49 Message-ID: <iehg3253s3v4uetqiohq0ine4kqm0li0i5@4ax.com> References: <de9a32dgbkljem62m71mrbuncofeq1583m@4ax.com> <1144335744.031477.175250@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <e13bdb$o8h$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk> <ccednWvyWPmD2KjZRVnyiw@bt.com> <1144343167.112533.226380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <slrne3b0v6.gmc.david@pepper.local.lan> <1144363742.668886.193580@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <k8cc32ppjng1bn388308gp1pbvljkaq0lk@4ax.com> <1144410328.642461.71090@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: junk.trap@ross-mail.me.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net HiPzTm6uirpXTZEN7QCJgwe08JzrZOv8r946y9dNifmAFp3XGH Summary: Just another RossRant X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783