🚀 go-pugleaf

On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Geoff Miller wrote:

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> Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
> <nobody@cypherpunks.to> quoted:
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> [...]
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>> Now, I ask you: What do any of these
>> things have to do with America today?
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>
> If you don't like it here, then get the fuck out.
>
> Puling liberal shithead...
>

"Love it or leave it" is rarely an option for the oppressed in America. 
In contrast it is always an option for people in other countries who 
want to come to America anyway.

It seems for every war abroad, there is a parallel war at home. 
Militarily inferior citizens become fodder for imperious aspirations of 
the powers-that-be. The same war against the enemy abroad becomes a war of 
greed against citizens at home.  It's like the war-means-of-production 
attitude at home that views other citizens at home as the enemy.

This is why we saw the rise of reactionist groups like the Black Panthers, 
SDS militants, and the Symbionese Liberation 'Army' during the Vietnam 
war.  The police had already 'brought the war home' back then as they've 
been doing now - unconstitutional surveillance, identification of the poor 
and oppressed as 'terrorists', similar racial/ethnic profiling as is done 
with the overseas enemy, expropriations, etc.

A nice commentary is 'What Ever Happened To Aldous Huxley?' by John 
Derbyshire http://www.newcriterion.com/archive/21/feb03/huxley.htm

(btw - my newsreader gives an error when I try to post to 
alt.politics.bush - not enough computer memory to summon the 80,000+ 
postings)

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> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 08:50:05 +0100 (CET)
> From: Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer <nobody@cypherpunks.to>
> Newsgroups: ba.general, scruz.general, misc.legal, alt.politics.bush
> Subject: How to tell if you are in a tyrannical police state
> 
> by Thomas R. Eddlem December 25, 2005
> 
> Tyrannical police states have
> certain universal characteristics.
> They spy on their own citizens,
> kidnap people at will, and
> imprison them without bothering
> to charge them with crimes or
> even give them a trial by jury.
> 
> Police states imprison innocent
> people, again and again and again.
> And they declare kidnapped victims
> non-persons and torture or kill
> them at will.
> 
> How do police states get away with
> it? From Hitler to the present,
> totalitarians say that we must
> give up our rights and freedoms
> because it's the only way for law
> enforcement to have the tools to
> protect us from catastrophic
> terrorist incidents. Of course,
> that's the opposite course advocated
> by America's Founding Fathers,
> like Benjamin Franklin, who counseled:
> 
> "They that would give up essential
> liberty for temporary security deserve
> neither liberty nor security."
> 
> Now, I ask you: What do any of these
> things have to do with America today?
>